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    Rymm's Avatar
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I don't understand what you mean? There is nothing wrong with owning multiple houses is there? I mean SE lets people flip houses for 100s of millions of gil. That's a huge incentive to buy up land and resell. Fastest way to get rich in the game.
    Just because someone can do something that's not against the rules doesn't mean that they aren't selfish jerks for doing so. And buying houses and flipping them for 100s of millions of gil is actually the only way to get SE to take action against you. They'll almost always look the other way if you are just trying recoup what you spent on a plot originally, but if you jack up the price 4-5 times higher than it's worth and someone reports you for it, SE can and will step in.
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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Azury Ariella
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Just because someone can do something that's not against the rules doesn't mean that they aren't selfish jerks for doing so. And buying houses and flipping them for 100s of millions of gil is actually the only way to get SE to take action against you. They'll almost always look the other way if you are just trying recoup what you spent on a plot originally, but if you jack up the price 4-5 times higher than it's worth and someone reports you for it, SE can and will step in.
    Is there like official word on this? There's an entire reddit dedicated to people jacking up prices....
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    Marluxia's Avatar
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    Verse Valendys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Is there like official word on this? There's an entire reddit dedicated to people jacking up prices....
    Right here, actually.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-this-thread
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    Dhembryda Frydwilfwyn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Is there like official word on this? There's an entire reddit dedicated to people jacking up prices....
    This thread right here has a video with Yoshi-P saying it isn't allowed.

    Edit: Ah, someone already beat me to posting it!
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Is there like official word on this? There's an entire reddit dedicated to people jacking up prices....
    Take note that reddit is not run by Square and thus Square doesn't have a say in the matter. Recent attempts at selling houses on these forums have been removed and the FFXIV reddit site has disassociated itself from the other subreddit. If it's allowed, why would people be utilizing 3rd party sites instead of in-game methods?
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    You have friends on Balmung with 6 or 7 houses? Friends? Balmung?

    Selfish ingrates...perhaps. But friends?
    Christ, any more salt and we'd be looking at the Lochs. For someone all about non-harassment was that really necessary?

    On topic - I'm very much a neutral in this argument. I have one personal house and my FC house in the same ward and personally, I agree that this should be the absolute maximum an account should have to ensure the largest amount of people possible have access to housing.

    In regards to the situation on Mateus, both those who own the one ward and the server population itself do have a sense of blame in all of this. If the wards were empty for as long as they were and it's only now that the server seems to have a problem, then honestly I have very little sympathy for those who didn't make the effort to get a home before the transfers opened up.

    That said, the tumblr post by those who own the ward have done absolutely nothing but fan the flames simply because their attitude stunk. Being a little humble about it would've gone a long, long way.

    There's a similar situation on Ragnarok where a FC owns several different houses in the Mist to take advantage of the airships and company workshops but no-one seems to have piped up about that one. I'm sure other servers have the same problem, but /shrug

    Simple fact of the matter is the system is open to abuse and SE needs to address this before they go live with Shirogane. It'll be interesting to see what Yoshi-P has to say in the upcoming live letter.
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    Last edited by Crysten; 07-09-2017 at 08:01 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    Christ, any more salt and we'd be looking at the Lochs.
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    Simple fact of the matter is the system is open to abuse and SE needs to address this before they go live with Shirogane. It'll be interesting to see what Yoshi-P has to say in the upcoming live letter.
    First things first, we're already beyond the point of The Lochs (though I almost woke my parents up laughing at that one).

    As for my housing: Back on Odin I had an apartment and the FC I was in had a small house (but it wasn't my FC). On Louisoix, the FC I'm in have a small house (not my FC), and I share a medium house with another player. Don't even own so much as an apartment here, though I could afford a small house of my own.

    As for the live letter, I think Yoshi's just gonna be like "We want to create a sense of community by keeping housing in wards. Working as intended." - maybe I'm just being pessimistic here but I don't see the problem ever being fixed... People like the current system as well which further complicates matters since if you change it, you're gonna annoy them. There's no way for SE to please everyone here... at least with the status quo we're used to it, even if we don't like it. I fear if they change it the flames will be fanned with much more vindication...
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Umbreon Nightshade
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    maybe I'm just being pessimistic here but I don't see the problem ever being fixed... People like the current system as well which further complicates matters since if you change it, you're gonna annoy them. There's no way for SE to please everyone here...
    I can't see much being changed either, however I'm hoping with the new servers/data center they will at least be able to expand. This is very much a matter of do you please the few loyal fans or the many new ones, there is no right answer but if they alienate new/casual players to much they risk losing the bulk of their income. Now I don't think that this housing issue is going to be the main reason why people leave I think it's just one of many little things and you don't want players to feel like they can't access content in a subscription based game.
    I've heard you can still get houses even in high pop servers if you camp the boards but there is a lot of contradicting information.
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    Last edited by Scenic; 07-09-2017 at 02:58 PM.

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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Scenic View Post
    I've heard you can still get houses even in high pop servers if you camp the boards but there is a lot of contradicting information.
    I can only speak abut my experience on Adamantoise. From what I saw when I was looking to buy a plot and have seen as I take walks around the various wards, plots become available often enough that you shouldn't have to camp full time to get one. My lot in the Lavender Beds had been on the market a couple of days when I bought it. It even has a nice view of a waterfall and stream. I've seen others last a couple of days before being sold as well. I'm not trying to say you can walk in anytime you want but over a couple of weeks of random dropping in you have a good chance of finding something. I also think some of the problem is with the Mists being considered the preferred area folks tend to spend more time looking there as opposed to the other two open housing areas. I know of no way to fix this other than being open minded about where your house is.
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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    People like the current system as well which further complicates matters since if you change it, you're gonna annoy them.
    Most people do not like the system at all. I wonder what's more important, pleasing a handful of RPers who want a bunch of trophy houses or the hundreds of people who would finally have access to housing. /think
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    Last edited by Valinis; 07-09-2017 at 03:37 PM.

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