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  1. #161
    Player
    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I have 2 houses, a large and a small. I only play around with one, really, so i feel a bit bad about having two, but it's a small pop server so there isn't a ton of demand, and it's better than having 30 or so at least...
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  2. #162
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    Vindicta Oyuki
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    This is a really difficult topic as there are rights and wrongs on both sides of the coin.

    That said, I joined FF14 about a month and a half ago with a group of friends. There are about 9 of us right now and we all donated every single gil we have above 100k into the fc chest constantly, just so we could own a house together. The house has a lot of mechanics ranging from the social/gathering in one place aspect all the way to airships, chocobos, etc.

    To us, a house is integral to having the most possible enjoyment out of the game as a FC. We were quite disappointed to learn that once we finally had the money it isn't actually possible to buy a house anywhere and no good in-game mechanics to buy/sell property either. Even more disappointing was to see how many people have multiple houses, or have on privately *and* for their FC. Don't get me wrong, private housing is great but SE really hasn't thought the mechanics through here.

    Ideally, the game should have reserved spots in housing zones for FC's only - and only if said FC has a minimum amount of members. There could even be a few sizes unique to FC's. We'd be fine with a medium house, heck right now we'd be fine with a small house anywhere - but it surprised us to see the game doesn't cater better for groups at least. For a group like ours getting a house means 9-10 people have a house in 1 go. We're not that interested in private housing. That's 9 subscription fees right there yet for some reason this feature is unavailable to us. Worse, we have the gil - we worked for it and we can still not access this feature. To me, this is poor game design.

    Limiting space to create a demand/supply market would be one arguement but houses cannot be traded in-game, so this is a moot point. Plus housing zones are instanced. There's literally no reason why SE couldn't spin up additional servers and create more wards. Cost? Give me a break, we pay subscription fees and houses demolish for inactive players. Just create some FC only plots and suddenly a ton of people have access to this feature..
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  3. #163
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    One medium house and one apt here. Housing should be limited to 1 private house per server until they upgrade hamsters *rolls eyes*. Then, perhaps one per housing area only. Having a so called, "social neighborhood", which is non-existent anyway, is not worth denying housing to 90+% of the players.

    House hording and fully decorating them all is like real life hording, causal effect: mental illness.
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    Last edited by Besame; 07-18-2017 at 06:58 PM.

  4. #164
    Player MaikoRaines's Avatar
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    Maiko Raines
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NOVAKHI View Post
    Earlier tonight I read their tumblr post, and my heart sank. https://seraphaltima.tumblr.com/ I understand why they don't want to give up the things they rewarded themselves, but im very worried about what they are going to do when shirogane opens. Are they going to buy out another entire ward because 28 houses isn't enough? I just relinquished my current FC estate to someone that didn't have a house for free. I did it hoping that I would be able to provide a house for my FC in Shirogane. Reading all of this feels like im getting my hopes up, and more so the lack of reply from square.
    Their argument was to "fill the holes"? and "Clearly no one else wanted them. People were leaving, not moving in" are asinine excuses to pad your own greed. You might not be flipping them or using them as FC houses for airship runs to flood the market boards, but it's still greed.

    The minute this entitled, self absorbed player uses excuses like "Fill the holes" and "You come into my home/how dare me, how dare you etc" and especially the part about Mateus being flooded with new players was the minute they painted themselves an even bigger pile of elitist snot nosed brats.

    First of all, and I really hope the blogger OP is reading this - this isn't a MATEUS issue, this is a server-wide, developer issue! You don't OWN Mateus, especially your ward. Your 28 houses wasn't obtained by two characters - don't kid yourself. You made the alts, transferred the money and then purchased them. You may of earned the money for them, and I commend your tenacity for it, but you weren't benefitting your world or "your home" at all. Buying 28 hours spanning many different alts was you taking advantage of a broken system the game devs overlooked. They're mostly at fault because they didn't look over that one fact that this was an exploit.

    Did you seriously think that all of the servers would remain empty like yours? The incentives, the fact that other greedy people from other servers have snagged up a ton of plots for their own purposes. Welcome to the incentive S-E put out for these transfers. What was the outcome you were expecting? To snag another 20+ plots from Kugane when they are released and have some kind of Asian paradise where you can "admire all your hard work" - people like you and people who defend this kind of behavior still make me scratch my head to no ends on why you think doing this is OK or acceptable in any way. Square needs to step up and own this mistake but instead, they punish actual functional FCs because they have left jerks like you to their devices for their screw up and oversight.

    The constant excuse of "Oh well the plots were freed up for years" does not openly invite you to circumvent Square-Enix's broken system. Or other greedy land owners for that matter.

    Seriously, I'll go start you a "Go Fund Me" for the gated community mod for your exclusive ward and then present it to S-E so it'll keep the homeless rabble out and you two can stare lovingly at your empty houses.

    Until someone from Square-Enix actually says or does something to address this, I'll still keep talking about it and hold S-E accountable until there's an address to the subject and a solution that will work in everybody's favor.
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    Last edited by MaikoRaines; 07-19-2017 at 08:35 AM.

  5. #165
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Personally I own my own small house in the lav beds (my cafe/theater), my small fc house in the goblet with a private room I use as my office, and an apartment in the mist which is my characters home...
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  6. #166
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    Aldotsk's Avatar
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    Mari Sakamoto
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 70
    At this point, they should just make a Final Fantasy XIV: Houses Reborn to prove that housing needs its own separate server or something to make it worthwhile.
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  7. #167
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Vindicta, sorry but the "kiddy farm", take anyone for a number FCs do not deserve a reserved slot anymore that my 8 person , friends and family that really like each other FC does. Nor does a FC deserve a slot more than the single players do. If the devs were not lazy and had a clue, they would fix this with instanced individual housing. It does affect their subs, these days people are into housing and we all want a space to make our own. We do not want to stand around listening to some dingdong mindlessly babble or spam emotes at each other nor fight to get to the community summoning bell that has 4 morons standing right on top of it in some lonely city.
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    Last edited by Besame; 07-20-2017 at 01:04 AM.

  8. #168
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    Venjamin's Avatar
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    R'vehn Belanger
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
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    Their arguments are irrelevant. They don't need to make them. They were tired of the bullshit from whiny people who flooded the server, so they wrote a response. They don't have to argue or justify. They own the plots ( insofar as anyone can own anything on SE's servers ) and they aren't going to be forced out of them by anything short of rule changes or dev intervention. They don't have to benefit anyone, and this isn't an exploit. If they found a way to break a rule or a basic system function? That would be an exploit. This was just people playing the game how they wanted to.

    Keep scratching your head. It's acceptable and okay because it's not breaking any rules, and they worked hard for it. It's cut and dry.

    If Square changes the housing rules, then hey, that's a new situation. Until then, feel free to keep complaining to SE. Just don't attack these people because you don't like their attitudes.
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  9. #169
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    Mari Sakamoto
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Or is it that you are in this thread to troll and assume that everyone is blaming these two players over 28 plots, just because people want housing system or more wards to be created? What kind of logic is that? Not everyone cares about what these two people did. We are basically asking for something to change for everyone to get equal opportunity or even expand more wards since wards are not enough even if two people didn't buy 28 plots since there are more player bases for Stormblood and people have gil to purchase them.
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  10. #170
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    Risu Unzan
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Venjamin View Post
    Keep scratching your head. It's acceptable and okay because it's not breaking any rules, and they worked hard for it. It's cut and dry.
    or is it?!?!

    "Terms of Service 3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players"

    It looks like they are disrupting the experience of a lot of other players hoarding a limited commodity.
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