A game that forces a sub fee that doesnt give enough space for all players to own a home is absolutely despicable. I am all for sub fees, btw. That isnt the issue

A game that forces a sub fee that doesnt give enough space for all players to own a home is absolutely despicable. I am all for sub fees, btw. That isnt the issue
You'd have to go back and limit housing to one per account, strip extra houses from people who have multiple and reimburse them for the plot and lost furniture. Would cause a lot of drama but could be done. Then you'd have to do something about flippers directly like making it so you can't give up your plot for X amount of months after purchase. This would prevent people from snatching a plot just to resell it.
I know of at least one FC that owns 4 total houses on Balmung. They've bought out other FC's and put either alts or family members in charge of the other houses with the leader having alts in each FC.

I have four houses on Mateus. Three normal houses, and one FC.
Yeah, I agree with the idea of limiting the houses to 2/account (FC house+personal house) + 1 apartment.
I dunno about this one I never thought I would say this but I side with the girls. On the one hand you had plots that were empty for years YEARS and two friends came together and put the time, effort and gill in, to buy them up and kit them all out and this was totally fine for a long period of time. This was their right and they have done nothing wrong. Then you have an influx of people who chose originally to join what has been known to be an overcrowded server for also years, suddenly show up and be like "where's ma house". I think at the end of the day the issue is that FF housing is desirable because it is rare and expensive and while I sympathise emplicitly with FC's trying to get a house (it took ours a year till a small plot finally opened at 4 am on a Monday morning and you can't imagine how excited we all were) they paid for them with blood, sweat and tears and they deserve those houses just as much as anyone else would.
I don't think anyone denies they bought them up fair and square when the server was empty. I think it's more on SE's end where the fault lies for not limiting 1 personal house/1 FC House Master per account. This has been an issue on going since they implemented housing where people or FC's would buy up multiple houses.I dunno about this one I never thought I would say this but I side with the girls. On the one hand you had plots that were empty for years YEARS and two friends came together and put the time, effort and gill in, to buy them up and kit them all out and this was totally fine for a long period of time. This was their right and they have done nothing wrong. Then you have an influx of people who chose originally to join what has been known to be an overcrowded server for also years, suddenly show up and be like "where's ma house". I think at the end of the day the issue is that FF housing is desirable because it is rare and expensive and while I sympathise emplicitly with FC's trying to get a house (it took ours a year till a small plot finally opened at 4 am on a Monday morning and you can't imagine how excited we all were) they paid for them with blood, sweat and tears and they deserve those houses just as much as anyone else would.



I think making any brand new rules is a bit beyond SE's capability as far as current home ownership goes. But it's possible they could apply a "one per server per account" rule on just Shirogane or purely on all future purchases. I would like to see that, but doubt it will happen.
If they try to revamp or redo the whole housing system, it'd be something among the line of them sending all of their former furnishings back to the Housing Caretaker and giving 100% gil back to the NPC and change it into some instance or whatever.I think making any brand new rules is a bit beyond SE's capability as far as current home ownership goes. But it's possible they could apply a "one per server per account" rule on just Shirogane or purely on all future purchases. I would like to see that, but doubt it will happen.
So even if those two people with 28 housing would get the full refund benefit too regardless. Just they'll face with more house-less. But it doesn't mean they can't try the 8 FC house method as alternative.
The Devs should really consider trying out the FC's own ward with plots and extra wards for players to build a house in there, and have non FC members purchase in personal housing instead.


We don't ask people to be expelled without any kind of payback (as for houses cost than furnitures). The housing need a revamp.
One problem can be told that way : new FC are in competition with individuals and there is not enough houses plots for FC's, alts FC's, main individual and alts .
For main and alt, it sounds reasonable to say houses need to be shared. One house per server per account sounds fair (this said by someone who would be glad to have two or three houses but there is the reality : server capacity -hum? kinda doubt anyway-).
For new FC's when Kugane will be opened, if they don't lock FC's only, it will be first come, first served. It will be a problem in many servers for FC's.
If all people and FC's want mansion (and if not "want", at least "would be glad"), the reasonable way is to start little with expansion possibilities (in gils). Not all players will take time to build the whole mansion.
There is not that many datas needed for housing, the only problem is instances. But considering how empty wards are, instances for indivudal houses cost less capacities than wards (especially if we remember apartments and rooms : they are instances and yet exist, server capacity sounds rather like an excuse to not change than a real capacity problem for servers).
There are MMO that offer pretty much more. In one, you can almost buy ALL houses, in ALL cities and transform all of them as accommodation. It is mainly only a matter of time and motivation -whole day crafting-.
Technicaly, it is possible. Do they want? That is the real question. And the reply sounds like a "no".
Last edited by Eldevern; 07-10-2017 at 05:21 PM.
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