[Suggestion] Monthly Housing Upkeep

[touya]

The game has market taxes. Are those fun? From your point of view, paying additional fees is a punishment. Do you think Yoshi-P and the dev team questioned whether or not to add that feature to the game? Well it's in the game, so you know what they decided on.
Now the real question. If this is supposed to be a game meant for fun, why would they add something so not-fun like taxes to the game, especially when the taxed amount doesn't even go "back into the economy"?

Lol, we both know those "taxes" are avoided if you're in that zone are. so if i buy a 10M item and instead of paying 5% on that, i can spend the cheaper fee to teleport to that area and get it without taxes. Does your solution offer tax exemption like the MB does? Also, these taxes are ON PLAYER MADE ITEMS. NPCs do not have taxes. Thus, things controlled by players have taxes. I can't craft and sell you a plot, thus the plots should not be taxed.

[SirBrighton]

Lol, we both know those "taxes" are avoided if you're in that zone are. so if i buy a 10M item and instead of paying 5% on that, i can spend the cheaper fee to teleport to that area and get it without taxes.

You know sales tax and import tax are different, right? The sales tax is removed from the listed amount and the rest is given to the seller, and if you're in a different city than the retainer when you buy something from them then there is a 5% import tax. That's a TIL for you.
Right now the only city offering 0% sales tax is Kugane, meaning unless all of your retainers are dispatched there, you are forced to pay 3-5% sales tax.
As for the comment about NPCs not having tax, I think you meant NPCs don't have an import tax, which makes sense since you're right there. And if you want to get real technical, NPCs are charged 100% sales tax since the money just returns to the system.

[Sylvaneste]

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! SE is ALREADY being a pain in teh hiney.......

SE said they woudl not require people to even have subs to keep their houses. So if you wante dto take a break you could.....Now you lose your house.

Heavens forbid your computer fries. Like mine actually did. Took me 6 months to replace it. Thankfully, wifey had a computer and could log in and "enter" the house.

SE not only requires people to have active subs. But also requires you to log in once a month and enter the stupid house. What if i just want to take a break, take a few months off, go on vacation, need surgery in a foreign country (like i actually did, was out of country for over a month). You lose your house! I lost a house and everything in it, including all of the money i should have gotten back. Sucks to be me.

Point is, no, SE should just instance the housing, make ALL of the houses just like they do the apartments. Fix the problem, but do not make any more burdens on those of us who bust our asses, play the markets, sell our souls to get houses.

[MistyMew]

Rift doesn't charge me additional fees to keep all 13 + dimensions across multiple characters, they don't expect me to log in after X amount of time or I will lose them either.

/no

SE, fix the problem of availability. Dish out the bucks to make it happen.
Instanced is a start...begin there plz. as suggested years ago.

tyty

[touya]

I'm still waiting for the thread creator to tell me what TOS these players broke in the article. He seems to be wanting to ignore the fact that these players did NOT break any TOS. I am still wanting SE to give a 45 day or a perma ban to everyone that has been harassing these players in any way for them to lose their hard work, this way those harassers learn a good lesson. If there is no violation of TOS, then nothing needs to be done. This is FACT.

[SirBrighton]

Is that the only reason you're sticking around? Okay, they aren't doing anything against the ToS.

Now to show you why that's a problem.

If I worked to and eventually owned all the houses and apartments on every server and wouldn't give a single one up, I still wouldn't be breaking the ToS, right? If I am single-handedly saying "no, you don't get to enjoy this content", you would be completely fine with that, and in fact defend me for doing so? The housing system is flawed in that it allows a player to do just this. Just because something's not against the ToS doesn't mean it isn't unfair.
I'm not saying they should give up their houses, I'm saying make it so one person can't potentially own them all.

[Elamys]

I'm still waiting for the thread creator to tell me what TOS these players broke in the article. He seems to be wanting to ignore the fact that these players did NOT break any TOS. I am still wanting SE to give a 45 day or a perma ban to everyone that has been harassing these players in any way for them to lose their hard work, this way those harassers learn a good lesson. If there is no violation of TOS, then nothing needs to be done. This is FACT.

House reselling technically isn't against the TOS either, but SE still punishes players for doing so. There is a provision in the TOS that basically amounts to "if you are preventing other players from enjoying the game," and while I doubt they're going to do anything in this case, one person owning all of those houses in a congested server could certainly be seen as doing such. It's the same logic they use for the house resellers - you're locking a significant portion of the playerbase out of the feature. Just because it isn't explicitly stated in the TOS doesn't mean SE would never do anything about it. They can't detail every possible situation so that's why that one exists.

[Abnoba]

in fact defend me for doing so? The housing system is flawed in that it allows a player to do just this.

Honestly, yes. I don't know these people but when they did nothing wrong I would stand up for them. Would it suck for the rest of us, hells to the yeah, but it doesn't mean we should go after them with fire. You could politely ask them what it would take to buy a plot from them. These were houses that no one wanted for a long time. So to answer your question, yes, I would stand up for you if you didn't break the terms of service. Yes, I would back your choice to be able to do something and be proud of your accomplishments. Side note though: you are only allowed 8 toons per server = 8 house+8appt+8 fc houses per server. One person alone couldn't do it. Grab a friend or two to reach this goal. Hell I'll even help level up your fc's to get 'er done. Have a wonderful day.

[Abnoba]

So in all actuality, the 2 of them could have a max of together: 16 toons leveled to 50+ with GC standings at max (all of them), 16 personal houses, 16 FC houses, and 16 apartments for a grand total of: 32 houses and 16 apartments and 16 personal rooms in the FCs (all on one server of course). They also did this pre-SB and pre-jump potions. Now remember how long it took you to get 1 toon to 50 + GC at max rank. They really did put in the work for this. Let it go.

[Acilith]

So in all actuality, the 2 of them could have a max of together: 16 toons leveled to 50+ with GC standings at max (all of them), 16 personal houses, 16 FC houses, and 16 apartments for a grand total of: 32 houses and 16 apartments and 16 personal rooms in the FCs (all on one server of course). They also did this pre-SB and pre-jump potions. Now remember how long it took you to get 1 toon to 50 + GC at max rank. They really did put in the work for this. Let it go.

Everyone seems to forget this part.