SE's Responsibility: Housing Situation

[HPDelron]

If SE wanted players to have collections of houses there wouldn't be character based restrictions on house ownership. That these exist are sufficient evidence that these limited resources were not meant to be gobbled up by singular entities.

Given how much of the game's design like the armory and retainer systems seemed focused on not needing alts I imagine this situation was a matter of simple oversight. SE's designers simply never considered the idea of folks leveling up tons of alts for the sole purpose of hoovering up limited resources. It's an aberrant play pattern done only for it's own sake. There's nobody out there going "Why yes I have 8 characters I all love and play equally, each with their own FC I value as a community. That's why they all needed houses I couldn't leave any of these beloved characters or FCs without the home to support them" It is a greedy power play and one nakedly obvious on its face as one.

If the idea this might ever happened had even crossed the designers mind you bet there would be account-based housing restrictions in place. This is a result of an oversight and while it's not a violation of any rule coded into the game or put in place by the ToS, it does seem to be a gross violation of the spirit of the rules & limitations in place.

[Endeleon]

It's laughably sad that people defend these actions because it's a video game, but if the same concepts were applied in real life they'd be enraged and disgusted. Must truly be a different world for the simple-minded.

OMG! Are you serious? Every single city in USA has enough empty, abandoned houses to home every single homeless person. And yet they sit, empty, because of greed. I don't see you blathering on in anger over that ACTUAL injustice to humanity? But you are so pissed at a couple buying fake houses in a fake world. mmk. I can see it's totally about the "issues" to you.

[artemos7]

Let's get something straight, pretty sure it was mentioned that these players are housed in Ward 12, a ward which has not been open for "years", so the the logic that those houses were open and dormant for years is flawed. To be perfectly honest? I could see them having 16 houses and wouldn't think much of it besides them being rude, but the fact that they literally created false FCs with one member each to get even more houses? That is nonsense and no amount of "This is our server first" "Those houses were open" "They couldn't forsee what would happen" is going to justify that. It was truly an exploitation of the system to be greedy, their excuses while trying to be passionate and emotional, fall as flat as my face when I see the number 28. Housing is limited, have respect for others and don't take so much more than you need, which is the mindset SE had when the made the system, but doesn't work in the US. There is blame on both sides, and rightly so.

[Venjamin]

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Sure, let's get something straight: You are wrong. If the number is your problem, then you don't really have a problem with the issue, so quit crying. This isn't rude. There is no need to justify anything. The houses were open. They bought them. That is cut-and-dry. It is not their responsibility to NOT buy things they want, no more than it is your responsibility to craft for people who are too lazy to craft. They didn't exploit anything. People had an opportunity to buy those plots. They didn't. So these two did. End of story.

[Sakuraluna]

Personally, I'm glad this situation has exposed the problem to the level that it has, because now it's more likely than not that there will be a fix in a later patch that puts a hard limit on the number of houses that can be owned per server on a single account.

[Hanayumi]

Easy fix for housing... just add rent to the game, few other mmos have it like that and it works fairly well. Just keep apartments free but for plots do something like 100k a week or so, maybe more or less depending on plot size. Either make it so you can pay up to like a month in advance or just have it auto take from you, your retainers, or FC chest...

[Ayer2015]

I think its time they fix housing permanently. Make one communal ward per region with instanced housing plots accessible from there, similar to how apartments function with the lobby. Existing houses could be transferred so people don't loose anything.

Also, it would be nice if they added activities to the community wards to promote their use; swimming/surfing in Limsa, Chocobo racing in Gridania, Slot machines in Ulda?

[NargaHuntress]

really some entitled little shiets here. just out of spite i hope SE does nothing. You ALL had a chance and had been asked and even been shown the signs that the server you was on was OVERPOPULATED, and was asked to leave or stop inviting people to those server MULTIPLE times. And yet i guarantee that almost every last on of you who came from those servers didn't want to leave because of "friends" because of "fc" because of "connections". God piss off. these people was TIRED of a DEAD housing ward. and decided to buy and DECK OUT EACH HOUSE themselves. At this point you dont deserve to OWN a house. pay them rent at this point. cuz id kill to have people in my ward who would actually furnish their houses who'd actually be there at least some times. tsk i bet yal just buy them and leave it empty.

[artemos7]

Back again to clear something up...I am NOT on Mateus. I made this thread for people who are on Mateus, and other respectful and dedicated gamers who would like a house but have been denied that for reasons of personal greed that could have been avoided by SE putting proper restrictions on housing before they started asking people to move servers. I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have respect for other people on my server that may want to enjoy the content locked behind housing and just have the one FC house and one apartment. Most of your responses don't show much more than contempt for basic decency and a lack of compassion for people who are trying to enjoy themselves and have to put up with all the other places that people don't care to share in their enjoyment up to this point where they get literally locked out of content for reasons which could have been controlled by SE themselves, then bolstered by US players who have no care for others.

[Venjamin]

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They were denied that for reasons of mass migration. There were plenty of spots available until the server was flooded with people. You're not complaining about them, just complaining about two people who are enjoying the game ( that thing you're saying they're supposed to deny themselves to give to others, while ignoring the obvious hypocrisy ).

No one is locked out of content. Join a FC, and voila, you have access to everything housing gives you except external decoration. Which, hey, they get an opportunity when Kugane opens up.

SE could have implemented housing entirely differently, so that everyone could get a house, rather than just restricting. At most, this is barring 24 other people from having houses. I wasn't aware that those 24 people were more important than these two, which you seem to be arguing for. It has nothing to do with 'basic decency' or a 'lack of compassion.' They put in the work. They bought the houses. There's nothing indecent or lacking in compassion. This is a GAME. You're not going to hit me with compassion arguments in a game where we are all as equal as we can be. The differences in this game are all about TIME AND EFFORT. Someone who's 70 doesn't have to run baby fates with other new players out of some sense of compassion. They can CHOOSE to, but shouldn't be guilted into it.

See, we all have equality of opportunity here. If you put in the time and effort, you get stuff. The exceptions are: First come, First served content like housing, or seasonal things. Are we supposed to cry if we missed out on Yokai equipment? "SE should just bring back every seasonal / special event, otherwise they're not being compassionate!" I don't have relic weapons capped out on all my characters because I wasn't willing to put in the effort. Should I just be given them because I want them? I'm effectively blocked from that content until I put in the work.

Just like all the new players that flooded in are blocked from content until they put in the work. ( You know, the work of getting the gil, finding a plot, etc. ) They shouldn't expect other people to give up their time and effort for them.

Again: No one was bitching until the server was flooded. If those people had chosen to upend themselves PRIOR to the giant move, they would have gotten housing. But they didn't want to make that sacrifice, and wanted to be handed stuff.

Snip.

Uh, the people that bought the houses are entitled to the houses they bought. End of discussion.