Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
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Well at least I'm only slinging fire now. Last time it got this heated I had to break out the butter!

Ah hem. I uh... am not trying to ignore you, and stuff... it's just I concur and don't feel like there's much for me to add? (Gettin' a little embarrassed here...)

Anyway, while I didn't play 1.0 - 1.x either, we do have at least one record of an Eorzean attempting to engage Garlemald in diplomacy. Lolorito tried to convince the Garleans not to drop Dalamud down on us. He, uh... did not succeed, which is why the Monetarists paid to reignite the Immortal Flames. There were some Garleans against the Meteor Project, but in the end it still went through.

The rest I concur with. When I say "Garlemald," I'm referring to their leaders... or the collective nation's decisions, which given it's an autocratic military dictatorship basically means the same thing. The Garlean people I do not have enough information to make any sort of judgment call on... if the Imperial City is something like a snowy Midgar as I envision, with the elites and upper class living in safety and comfort on the plate while the lower classes freeze and starve to death down below, I'll still be pissed at their government while sympathizing with their civilians. I'd very much like to ask Nero what the Imperial City is like... Cid is of noble birth so he might not know, but Nero is heavily implied to be of common descent, so if we wanted information on Garlean civilian life he'd probably be the best person to ask. (Also, I want him to reinstall the weapons systems in my Magitek Predator.)

I also agree that Varis needs to do a better job of keeping tabs on his legates. Gaius can't be blamed on him because he died before Solus (though he did go rogue while the latter was on his deathbed), but Zenos was his own son and a legatus. I find it very difficult to believe he had no inkling as to what Zenos was doing. It's actually implied he was watching our battle with Zenos (as Shinryu) on his TV before Elidibus teleports in and starts talking to him. I think. If he really had no idea what Zenos was up to, the Frumentarium need to step up their game.

The Garlean people might be decent. They might not be. Either way I never have and never will condone killing them all... but at the same time, I am not going to tell people "Sorry you have to suffer and die, we're going to make peace with them real soon." We need to change their government in some way, but I won't let innocents be killed while that goes through.