Is anyone else dying to get to Garlemald?

[Alleo]

They've showed the good side of Garlemald at multiple points. It's nobody's fault but their own if they deliberately choose to ignore that. Furthermore the comparisons to Nazi Germany don't really help - they're largely fueled by emotional bias. I'm not saying it's the case here, mind you, but elsewhere on the internet it has become rather common for people to make comparisons to Nazi Germany in an attempt to shut down an opponent's argument because it's easier to paint the opposition as Nazi sympathisers instead of understanding their point of view or recognising that the world is a lot more nuanced than many like to believe.

Gaius and Regula have already proven themselves to be honourable. There's a side quest in one of the liberated settlements that has the inhabitants threaten to kick out the Eorzean Alliance and Ala Mhigan Resistance because the Garlean in charge of the place treated them very well. That same officer also points out that whilst some areas - such as Doma and Ala Mhigo - are cesspits of suffering there are other places that are largely unchanged and prosper under Garlean rule.

But even when I ask people to tell us about the good points (and take my time to write down the bad ones) nobody truly shows them. I know that one is biased (like I said I am from Germany so the parallels are way more obvious for me but maybe I am reading more than it should be) but people that like Garlemald are really biased too. I even said that I dont think that the citizens itself are bad but that the leaders and government is, so its not like I am saying: OMG all Garlean people needs to be killed. But I am seeing way more negatives sides of them than good and at the same time nobody truly writes down the good ones. Its always: Well Eorzea did x things too, so it feels more like wanting to show Eorzea in a bad light to make Garlemald less bad, but all that I want is showing us the good points.

And sorry but you cant just ignore the big parallels to Nazi Germany: Race supremacy, Genocide of races because they are seen as lesser beings, using bad means to get the ends, the experiments on prisoners, only allowing the way of Garlemald, and even quest names like Black rose. If you want to go down to it, they even have the blond hair color. I am not saying that Garlmald is Third Reich but you cant just say that it has nothing in common with it and that the story writers did not have such a dictatorship as their inspiration.

About Gaius: He may have been honorable in some cases but he was not all about honor. He did a lot of things that are good for Garlemald and lets not forget that SE itself did not want us to see him in that good of a light. Regula would have been an interesting NPC but he got killed way to fast.

You always say that you want more nuances and write it like us that are against Garlemald cant see nuances. But I wrote more than enough times that I know that not every person in Garlemald is bad. When I talk about it, I mean leader, the government. And right now there is nothing truly good about it. Also a whole world should never be only be black and white but you cant just always have everything in grey either. You will still have enemies and friends that are tending more to one or the other side. And for me Garlmald is on the bad side with some small points for it.

Also Garlemald had it bad in the past on their continent. It was their own decisions to go further than that and try to conquer the whole world. War will always be bad. Be it for vengeance, in the name of a god or just because there is money to be had. Even if they had a reason to take revenge on some tribes in their country it never gave them the right to conquer the rest of the world. And primals never give them the right to kill of all the beast tribes, or kill echo users. HW should have taught us that taking revenge for being treated bad will never end well. Thats why we have our justice system to stop people on doing it themselves and only creating more problem with it.

And the quest you are talking about is not about threating them well while they stayed there but they wanted to protect him because he ordered his soldiers to leave without a fight thus saving the lives of the people. Yet if you talk with the people in this village you will also hear negative points about the occupation of the Garlean. And the rule in games is: Show dont tell. You can tell me that Garlemald is building a utopia in Garlemald where everyone is living their lives in peace and harmony but when you see the complete opposite in the story you cant believe it. Who knows how its truly in those states. Maybe it only feels like that for the people that grew up under Garlemald and not for those that were there before it. Maybe they changed it for the better for some people but those might not have noticed what happened with other parts that did not agree with it.

We have a quite nuanced Eorzea. All know that the city states are not without their bad points. You are even shown these points in the story and some of them are even called out for this. But Eorzea also do a lot of good and the current governments are mostly good people too. Gridanias leader healed Garlean soldiers after Bahamut burned everything down and they are all shocked about Garlemald shooting at its own people. Also other than old Ala Mhigo none tried to go and conquer the world. Even after all that Garlemald did they still did not go to war against them because they knew about the consequences. They only started it because of Ilberts actions. So they are the grey countries that you want. They kinda are like real life countries too. Having their intern problems, not solving everything perfectly, make mistakes but at least try to do good. And then you have Garlemald that is going way beyond anything than Eorzea ever did. I am quite sure that you would not like such a country in real life. I mean we see stuff like that in a way with North Korea but they at least dont conquer the world.

I'm not about to use irl references. But Ul'dah totally engaged in chemical warfare, against Sil'Dih. Gridania has torture chambers in their jail cells(and the occasional residential manor), and Limsa, even after allegedy removing its history of piracy, has been known to play fast and loose with agreements and treaties.

Yes, there is no nation that is perfect, but when the local priest is a few crystals and "one bad day" away from summoning their god, I can see where one would get the idea that drastic measures need to be taken, because the Warrior of Light won't be around forever.

The problem with Uldah is that this was something of the past. The Uldah today would probably not use something like that. I would get behind a Garlemald that changed and tries to solve problems different, so I am not someone that says: Once bad always bad. But even current Garlemald is just doing lots of bad stuff. And yes no city state in Eorzea is truly good, but no current state do so much bad than the current Garlemald. I mean they could have used the information about the poisons for their own but instead they burned every information because they never want to create something like that.

And no city state (minus Thordan) has ever summoned their own primal and lots of the current primal problems can be traced back to Garlemald too. And no slaughter is never a good solution. The beast tribes are not summoning them out of fun. They are summoning them out of fear for their future. Eorzea did make some bad mistakes with the beast tribes but at least they try to solve these selfmade problems with talking. But Eorzea also cant do much if they constantly have to fear the attack of Garlemald and still have to recover from the last catastrophe.