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  1. #51
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    Lustaria's Avatar
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    Tamamo Kuroka
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Usually in Dungeons, I go like this:
    Use LB on first boss because it's usually still about 75% full by the time we get there and fills up while we're fighting it. Or if it's an earlier dungeon, it doesn't actually fill up at all during the first boss because our ilvls are too high.

    1. Use on first boss.
    2. Skip use on second boss in order to build up the second bar for use on the last boss at about 5-10%. At least that's how I do it.
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  2. #52
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    because when tank do a large trash mob pull, as a caster I LB it, someone complain
    because when tank do a large trash mob pull, as a range, I cast LB, and tank just dodge dance in a way most of the trash run out of my LB, someone complain
    because as a melee, LB on boss, someone complain it is better to use on big pull
    yeah, what ever i do, someone complain, i have enough of it
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  3. #53
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    Rhindas's Avatar
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    When not using it on big trash pulls, if I don't need to save it for the second/third bar, I may use it as soon as the fight starts. LB seems to build faster in boss fights anyway so you're gonna get a big chunk back by the end (not to mention some bosses specifically reward LB progress for properly doing mechanics). When I think we'll need to save it, I'll wait to use it at specific points: i.e., watching for mechanics. People can spam "LB!" at me all they want, I'm not using it when I know the boss is about to do something that'll either A) nullify/waste it or B) kill myself and/or others because I'm too busy shooting my lasers to move.


    As Healer specifically, I am fully aware the party is nearly dead, but I'm also fully aware when to actually use it. No sense in me locking myself in a fancy dance for 10 seconds while the party gets up to die again, and then now so am I so I can't re raise. If the temporary invincibility applies to the healer LB3 then it's astounding how fast people still redie.
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  4. #54
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    I always forget to LB, but that's because I tank more than I DPS, and since tanks never get to use theirs, well... xD

    It's easy to forget about it once you finally get to DPS for a change ^^
    Take a walk on the wild side, and use it...use the tank LB3...use it! Either that or let the healers do it.

    I mean, seriously, if we're in a full party content and the boss is under 25%, but we're taking a beating, why not use the tank LB3? It will give everyone a breather and we can finish instead of wiping. And if a huge mechanic just killed the majority of the party, the healer LB3 would seem to be a great solution to me, bring everyone back at full and let's do it to it.

    Tanks and healers have some of the most powerful LBs and never use them, it's always left to the PS and even they seem afraid to use the LB sometimes. Perhaps it's time we all, tanks and healers, put the LB back on our bars and contemplate using it should the circumstances allow or demand.
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  5. #55
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    Sparhawk Kennis
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Limit break is underpowered simple as that. In ARR it was really good but HW player power outshined it. SB there's no reason to use it now. The long cast time doesn't help with aoe mechanics flying all over the place and the flashy graphics don't line up witht he shit damage. In cases as say like a Dragoon using it, that kills my BotD meter and losing that is devastating to dps overall. So it's rare that it's safe to use LB for a very miminal gain.

    Simple fix, increase it's power and while channeling/in animation it freezes all your buff timers. Put in something so you can't abuse it we're good. Otherwise unless it's scripted there's no point in LB use.
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  6. #56
    Player
    Lustaria's Avatar
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    Tamamo Kuroka
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Trivia: Last I was aware, the power scaling of the LB is actually based on the average ilvl of your whole party's weapons. So if your LB damage isn't up to snuff, well.. someone's weapon is probably underleveled. Maybe. It still has its uses for the most part.
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  7. #57
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Can't stop, it'll hurt muh 1447 54^^UR41 DEE PEE ESS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    But, most people I have asked are super gun-shy on the LB because of the shockingly long animation lock. It's totally possible for a player to die from otherwise avoidable damage because they were locked in the animation.
    Main reason I don't always do it. LB1 is a DPS loss for all melee except maybe ninja, LB2 breaks even due to the six second lock, and LB3 is awesome but the 10 second lock is extra brutal and I'm almost guaranteed to have to scramble to get everything back on CD, assuming I don't get targeted mid lock and die to subpar healers.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 07-08-2017 at 07:53 AM.

  8. #58
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Just finished a Deltascape 2.0 as the only ranged DPS, RDM. Had a MNK and 2 SAM. Guess who used the LB3? Yup, me.
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  9. #59
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Actually, I get more infuriated at cohealers refusing to kerp it on their hotbars, especially now that we aren't grossly overgearing the endgame.

    But, most people I have asked are super gun-shy on the LB because of the shockingly long animation lock. It's totally possible for a player to die from otherwise avoidable damage because they were locked in the animation.

    What's worse is if it get's interrupted after the cast starts, we lose any stacks of LB we had.
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  10. #60
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I don't feel like dying while having the animation go off, do 0 damage, and lose the LB. I'll use it when I can, but otherwise no. Muh deeps.
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