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  1. #71
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    1st boss? when i hear that DING and it's over 5 % it gets LB'd. 2nd boss? same deal. Last boss? I have one bar and it's going to be past 6% when the 2nd one fills.. LB. 'Goons have very simple LB rules. I get annoyed when casters LB bosses.. and every time i ask them why they didn't let me use my higher damage, single target LB on the BOSS... i get "lol there's no difference". I think we need an LB guildhest or something.
    I've gotten scolded before for waiting to use it, so now it's automatic and I still get scolded: "should have saved for last boss" "there's an aoe pull we should use that on" ... didn't say anything I'm not going to save it.

    ..oh and a pox on people who LB's Nabriales before the vortex.
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  2. #72
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by OwlBlackX View Post
    I was person use LB for kill last boss

    But, rare I see in duty roulette as low levels. BLM/BRD/MCH use LB as aoe for kill faster from huge pulls...
    Before I asked "save for last boss?" They ignored it
    Like said earlier, it's much bigger DPS benefit when used by casters (or even ranged) on big pulls than on boss (in dungeons), and it doesn't make any sense to save it.
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  3. #73
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    We all know the standard protocol is for the DPS to only use LB when it's full, and at 1%. Where the boss dies before the LB or animation even goes off. Usually done by a DRG.
    This, DPS need their anime finishes even though an auto attack downed a monster.
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    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  4. #74
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    Leadleaf's Avatar
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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I use them fine on dungeons. Although I restrain sometimes on 1st boss in the faith the ranged dps will dunk it on the next masspull (9/10 they don't).

    8/24 mans with DF'ers? I don't care to use it because the moment I do, everyone will make it their mission to fail every mechanic and aoe so they get to screech about no healer lb3.
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  5. #75
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Honestly, I've never had to use LB at all until SB content (Healer), and that is only after some utter group-derp.

    IMO, if you can complete the fight without it, then don't use it. It's incredibly pointless to use on most fights except as a desperation move (which oddly enough I've seen in PotD more than I've seen in actual content.)
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  6. #76
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    Holy-chan's Avatar
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    Suzuran Shiraishi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I used to use the limit break to finish off the first boss, or as an opener on the second boss. I stopped doing that because of frequent complaints from party members, saying that it should be saved for the last boss. But then there's others berating me for not using it until the last boss. You just can't win...
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  7. #77
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    Coatl Days
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    LB is bested used on caster LB in mass pull anyway.
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  8. #78
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    RubyCirha's Avatar
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    Ruby Cirha
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    Coeurl
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    Monk Lv 73
    Had this problem the other day in royal dragoon didn't use it when if had we wouldn't have wiped I would have but I was dead lol
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  9. #79
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    Belle Forte
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 70
    I'm usually paired with a melee DPS when on my bard, so I try to let them use the LB on the boss. That said, for the love of Rhalgr, use the damn limit break! I've ended up using it when I've given up on them doing anything and it usually amounts to a smack on the butt. Maybe I'll make a macro on my healer...
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  11. #80
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xdark93 View Post
    what i have learned from experience and common etiquette is this:

    1. melee should always have first dibs because their LB is a single target attack that hits for high damage therefore most useful on a boss to cut their hp or finish them off.

    2. for range/caster dps you should only be using your LB if the tank pulls big and asks you to use it. or in some circumstances where the other dps happens to be dead an the boss has reached that 10% hp status or if the other dps is also a range/caster and doesn't execute it in that window. caster/range limit break is weaker than the melee LB because it is an AoE and that means its damage is spread out across Adds dealing considerably less damage if used on a boss or special mechanic.
    A caster LB1 on just 2 targets does more damage than a melee LB1.
    A caster LB1 on 4 targets does more damage than a melee LB2.
    A caster LB1 on 7 targets does more damage than a melee LB3.

    Caster should use it early on a trash pull, then again on a late trash pull. If the bar is full before the boss, it should only be saved if the boss has three or more simultaneous adds.

    Melee DDs shouldn't LB except on primals and in non-alliance raids.


    (For comparison, in a full party:
    A caster LB2 on 4 targets does more damage than a melee LB3.
    A caster LB3 on 2 targets does more damage than a melee LB3.)
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