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    Player
    Tsukino's Avatar
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    Tsukino Mahou
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I'm guilty of forgetting to use the caster limit break on trash most of the time. If I'm on a melee DD I use it on bosses, which is kind of funny considering SMN is my main.

    I think, as an explanation but not an excuse, I tend to focus a lot on my AoE abilities and build-up and forget to look for a good time to use the LB. I would expect BLM is largely the same, they lose their stacks/Enochian and Flare build-up and might be focused on executing that instead.

    I will say that I never take it personally or think it's rude if someone just chats "LB." If you're the tank or healer and remind me, I'll feel dumb for forgetting again, but I will do it. I've noticed saying the same for melee on bosses (and ranged/casters when no melee are present because they aren't used to doing it) often results in it getting used. Some people just need a reminder and it doesn't hurt.
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    Kasmiya's Avatar
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    Zenna Rose
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I mostly play casters so I usually wait for the melee to do it. If I'm in a double caster group sometimes I just forget. I've been yelled at before for using the LB as a caster since the melee wasn't or during large trash pulls. I can't seem to win lol so I just don't touch it if there is a melee dps in the group. *shrug*

    ETA: I agree with the above comment. I'd rather someone just type a friendly reminder in chat if I slip up and forget because sometimes I do get caught up in my rotation and forget.
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    Last edited by Kasmiya; 07-09-2017 at 01:06 AM.

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    Malthoran Madyson
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 71
    honestly, I'm just conditioned to save it so the melee DPS can use LB2 on the last boss.

    that's how it has always been, so I've just gone with it.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 79
    As a SAM, LB is a pure dps loss since I can do similar or greater damage in the same time frame. Thus, if it isn't an LB3, I'm going to leave it to the ranged/caster/whatever. Had someone try to kick me once, but I deal so much damage everyone else said no and told the healer that initiated the kick to stop whining.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    As a SAM, LB is a pure dps loss since I can do similar or greater damage in the same time frame. Thus, if it isn't an LB3, I'm going to leave it to the ranged/caster/whatever. Had someone try to kick me once, but I deal so much damage everyone else said no and told the healer that initiated the kick to stop whining.
    You were going to be kicked for not using LB? Wow people are petty.

    As a healer I actually like when people don't use the LB because I like to use Healing Wind after we clear the instance because it's awesome. >_>
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    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    A lot of times we'll get groups with 2 ranged or 2 magic DPS and they forget the thing even exists because we usually end up not needing it.

    And even if they don't forget it exists.... it is too weak, anyways. I don't get why those abilities don't have modifiers or such for hitting single-targets so that they are at least as powerful as the melee LB.

    Hit 1 target with it? It does the same damage as the melee LB.
    Hit 2+ targets with it? It does the same damage it does now.

    I see that as more of the LB itself being not balanced very well. A group that has 2 magic/ranged DPS doesn't have access to that LB that shears a huge chunk off the last boss and therefore the last boss will need to be fought that much longer, giving the group a clear disadvantage. But yet, in Roulettes, you can't exactly choose your group unless you go in with 2 DPS from the start.
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    "Yeah, I used the lust pomander on the 4th floor. It was there, it needs to be used!"
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    WeekendSoja's Avatar
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    Character
    Luku Asura
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I have a macro on my tank/healer with a countdown attached to it saying something akin to "look at that limit break...if a DPS won't use it I think I will! /countdown10

    Sad to say, I usually get to use it at the end of the countdown lol. Never been kicked for it but the silence the other team members give me is deafening! Lol
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    Character
    Elfidan Gadfor
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    It seems like nobody uses it anymore on my datacenter. Unless I play DPS I never see it used. How about a new challenge log: Use Limit Break effectively. I know , I know , this would exclude tanks. Hey what if you get credit for party members as well though?
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Character
    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Today I was doing some leveling on WHM and out of curiosity checked LB damages. I did 2 runs of Shisui of the Violet Tides. On first run, none of the DDs used LB before last boss, when melee used it (LB2) for 84 800 damage (189 DPS for the fight). On second run, a caster used it on last big pull before second boss for 141 131 damage (around 400 DPS for that pull I think) and there was a full LB1 bar at the start of last boss fight (we got LB2 which the melee didn't use...)

    So yeah, caster LB1 seems definitely worth using on big pulls and is the most beneficial way of using LB in dungeons, I would assume using melee LB2 didn't cut 189 dps from the melee (who had 1100 dps excluding the LB) in final boss fight, so that's probably worth using as well if you get one, and using LB1 at least right before second boss still lets you have a full LB1 bar before last boss, so there's no reason to save LB for last boss even if you want to use LB2 on that.
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