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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Wait, people excluded WHMs? On what servers? Almost very farm party and progression group I saw in HW always had a WHM and in most cases a SCH, simply because WHM provided such huge heals that the utility loss was made up for by raw heals.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Wait, people excluded WHMs? On what servers? Almost very farm party and progression group I saw in HW always had a WHM and in most cases a SCH, simply because WHM provided such huge heals that the utility loss was made up for by raw heals.
    3.4 onwards was a SCH+AST meta, so, yeah. Some parties were OK with off meta, plenty weren't. Aether Datacenter in my case.

    The bolded was a flawed argument back then because AST heals were just as big, and now they're even bigger. Yes yes Cure 3 and all that, but that's one situation spell that wasn't particular great for the last tier with all of its spread mechanics.

    Keep in mind that, theorycrafting on potencies and such aside, a lot of people care about their FFLogs rankings and will want AST just for that. (Even my own static bugs me to get on AST any time someone outranks them there...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    I'm all for enhancing our job granted, but are people really being denied flat out for being any particular job?
    Take a look at static recruitment PFs sometime. Granted, it's not only healers that are subject to this, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't care either.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    3.4 onwards was a SCH+AST meta, so, yeah. Some parties were OK with off meta, plenty weren't. Aether Datacenter in my case.
    That explains it. I rarely saw that in the Primal Datacenter from PF groups, though at least not from any that needed healers. Saw plenty of all possible healer comps throughout 3.4 to SB's launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That explains it. I rarely saw that in the Primal Datacenter from PF groups, though at least not from any that needed healers. Saw plenty of all possible healer comps throughout 3.4 to SB's launch.
    Aether gets dragged down towards this ridiculous meta adherence by Gilgamesh, generally.
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