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    Scarletelf's Avatar
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    Mir'te Notus
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    Behemoth
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    Goldsmith Lv 100

    WHM Divine Benison

    Hello! I wanted to discuss some abilities with whm's and specifically their Lillies mechanic.

    I feel that for a job that was given a whole new mechanic the Lillies should do more than just hasten cd's. Whm's have Divine Benison, an ability locked behind Lillies that grants a shield (new stoneskin). Why do we expend Lillies to use Divine Benison without any sort of cool mechanic like Planery Indulgence/confession?

    Why doesn't Divine Benison for example give:
    1 Lillies 15% shield
    2 Lillies 20% shield
    3 Lillies 25% shield

    I personally think this would make the Lillies a little bit more engaging then just an ability haste.
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    Last edited by Scarletelf; 07-04-2017 at 05:09 PM.

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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Or make Divine Benison ONLY cost 1 lillies and not ALL if you got 3 lillies and rarther spend 2/3 lillies on Assize/tetra.
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Full disclosure, I really like the design of this skill.

    First things first, 3 lilies being used on any skill is kinda meh, so I wouldn't worry too much atm about wasting 2-3 lilies on DB, provided you needed DB.

    But onto the cost rational:
    In my opinion, the lily cost is there solely to make skill order matter and DB is one of the only good designs within the lily system. On many tank busters, DB isn't "needed" and there isn't much wrong with spending your lilies on a tetra instead.
    During a periods where HPS is needed, like a big dungeon pull or what have you, you may want DB or some other cooldown depending what cooldowns are available and how many lilies you have. IMO, this is a good thing for WHM and makes the class more interesting.
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    Kailani Rhys
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I just REALLY hate how everything with the build is pure rng.....rng to get free cure 2, rngto get lilies, rng to get the level 70 buff on a player.

    Honestly, (and i am not running ex's yet) i do not care about faster cool downs. I do hate how you use up all three lilies on DB,. I would much prefer to use the lilies (one per) on a party member to add the level 70 buff, then when needed, pop the heals across all three or 4 people, especially in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    IMO, this is a good thing for WHM and makes the class more interesting.
    I see what you mean! I still personally like the ability, I just felt that using all the Lillies flat out would be funner if there was a little more incentive to be at full stacks. By no means is the skill bad, whm got the good end of the stick with new abilities.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvaneste View Post
    rngto get lilies
    100% is not RNG.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    100% is not RNG.
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Arcanist Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    Or make Divine Benison ONLY cost 1 lillies and not ALL if you got 3 lillies and rarther spend 2/3 lillies on Assize/tetra.
    Yes please! I don't get why Benison uses up all lillies.
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
    WHM don't have issue with mana...
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    WHM don't have issue with mana...
    doesn't mean I think it's good design.
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