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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Blacksmith Lv 70

    The Royal Menagerie (From a Healers standpoint)

    I know there's been alot of threads in related to this trial already and I'm late to the topic... There's been alot said about this fight so far and honestly I hope it doesn't get nerfed but if it does so be it... I didn't get a chance to chime in on the other threads out there because I hadn't done the trial yet due to taking the MSQ slow.

    Just wanted to say that this trial is the most fun I've ever had on scholar. Literally so much damage being dished out that my entire toolkit gets used and I really feel like im being pushed to the limit, usually even have to becareful with MP and strategize it. I remember all the topics about people wanting more intense healing fights (I was one of them) and I just wanted to say that this trial delivers!

    I remember seeing a few threads related to it being too hard and stuff but It really took me back to titan hardmodes release and Its just good to feel a fight like this again.

    Just wanted to thank whoever designed this fight, very enjoyable!

    Off topic:
    Even on my war this is a fun fight. As off tank I am still constantly taking damage so sometimes switching stance to help out the healers lets me utilize my full toolkit. The only annoying aspect is the fact that we still lose beastgauge switching stance. Its a step in the right direction for off tanks.
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    I agree -- I was dreading this trial, and when I got into my first (of two) DF pug parties for it, I was asked to main tank both even though it was my first time in [I'm PLD and the OT were WAR and then DRK]. The trial made me make use of every cool down I have and also think about proper use of things like clemency and shelltron and divine veil. It took me two DF parties to clear since the first one vote abandoned after 2 wipes, but the 2nd we pulled through with 5 minutes or so left after 3 wipes and mostly everyone new to the duty.

    And yep - this fight reminded me the most of the Titan HM fight back in the ARR release days -- the only caveat being that back then I could farm for Darklight gear to give myself a better chance of survival, vs. the Menagerie where you are pretty much capped at i300 dungeon gear since the verity vendor is locked behind MSQ completion ^^
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    Asahina Karayami
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    LOL! FUN...?! O-O This is the MOST frustrating and BAD designed fight EVER in this nice game! - Savage Battle in MSQ? What are they thinking? I never got SO extremly pissed and angry because of that cheap dragon, where 99% of people cant handly mechanics, even most are just recycles! >-> Not even Crap Steps of Fate's took me countless hours to try a complete! Most people cant even stay alive for DPS check round, or/and cant even press-spam the button's after that! People stay in water puddles if lighting atk coming, people NOT stay in water puddles if Fire atk comes. and so on! >_>
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    LOL! FUN...?! O-O This is the MOST frustrating and BAD designed fight EVER in this nice game! - Savage Battle in MSQ? What are they thinking? I never got SO extremly pissed and angry because of that cheap dragon, where 99% of people cant handly mechanics, even most are just recycles! >-> Not even Crap Steps of Fate's took me countless hours to try a complete! Most people cant even stay alive for DPS check round, or/and cant even press-spam the button's after that! People stay in water puddles if lighting atk coming, people NOT stay in water puddles if Fire atk comes. and so on! >_>
    No offense, but the damage from Royal Menagerie doesn't come remotely close to what Savage dishes out. Regardless, it's supposed to be the grand finale against an incredibly powerful monster. We shouldn't be able to curb stomp him. As awesome a spectacle as Thordan was, it didn't feel like he was anything special since we rolled over him as though he were a trash mob. If more challenges like TRM existed, people would actually have to put forth an effort, which is sorely lacking in this game half the time.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
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    Cleared my first time running blind with an FC mate after one wipe as SAM. Only time I died was not realizing the tail broke the floor in the second phase. Bear in mind I don't do Savage or Extremes: Still a pretty easy but fun fight.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Cleared my first time running blind with an FC mate after one wipe as SAM. Only time I died was not realizing the tail broke the floor in the second phase. Bear in mind I don't do Savage or Extremes: Still a pretty easy but fun fight.
    Can't believe I'm doing this but... I agree 100% with Thunda_Cat.

    The fight is NOT hard. It's very easy actually, as long as you pay attention. Don't tunnel vision.

    And it's not even that hard to understand his stuff... He has "a lot" of mechanics, but nothing really new or special except perhaps the tail and the floor thing (I don't do savages so Iunno). You see a tornado? Don't get pushed off by it. See the ground turn to ice? Don't move. See "comet" indicators on the ground? Get to a safe spot. It's not hard and everything is clearly telegraphed.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 07-06-2017 at 01:53 AM.

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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    LOL! FUN...?! O-O This is the MOST frustrating and BAD designed fight EVER in this nice game! - Savage Battle in MSQ? What are they thinking? I never got SO extremly pissed and angry because of that cheap dragon, where 99% of people cant handly mechanics, even most are just recycles! >-> Not even Crap Steps of Fate's took me countless hours to try a complete! Most people cant even stay alive for DPS check round, or/and cant even press-spam the button's after that! People stay in water puddles if lighting atk coming, people NOT stay in water puddles if Fire atk comes. and so on! >_>
    it really isn't that bad at all.

    It just take understanding the mechanics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    it really isn't that bad at all.

    It just take understanding the mechanics
    Tell that to the other people not me! I got all mechanics saved in my head at 1st use of them, Im learning very quick >_> Most arnt even knew...
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    Aleph Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    LOL! FUN...?! O-O This is the MOST frustrating and BAD designed fight EVER in this nice game! - Savage Battle in MSQ? What are they thinking? I never got SO extremly pissed and angry because of that cheap dragon, where 99% of people cant handly mechanics, even most are just recycles! >-> Not even Crap Steps of Fate's took me countless hours to try a complete! Most people cant even stay alive for DPS check round, or/and cant even press-spam the button's after that! People stay in water puddles if lighting atk coming, people NOT stay in water puddles if Fire atk comes. and so on! >_>
    Do you even savage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    LOL! FUN...?! O-O This is the MOST frustrating and BAD designed fight EVER in this nice game! - Savage Battle in MSQ? What are they thinking? I never got SO extremly pissed and angry because of that cheap dragon, where 99% of people cant handly mechanics, even most are just recycles! >-> Not even Crap Steps of Fate's took me countless hours to try a complete! Most people cant even stay alive for DPS check round, or/and cant even press-spam the button's after that! People stay in water puddles if lighting atk coming, people NOT stay in water puddles if Fire atk comes. and so on! >_>
    welcome to old school gaming.

    get over it.

    what i like is both tanks, gotta tank equally. they both get damaged by the boss and gotta stack away from the pt for ahk mourn.
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