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  1. #1
    Player
    HyperSMB's Avatar
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    Crystal Skye
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100

    Have a little empathy for those whose jobs got crushed.

    You know, I was lucky. My job has been good since I started playing. It never really dawned on me how those 3.0 AST/PLD felt, or the poor BRD's that saw their class identitiy destroyed in front of their eyes.

    Now I get it. I understand. I beg those of you who now have a great place in the meta, have a touch of sympathy for those not so lucky when they complain on their respective forums.

    Hyperbole aside, SE please fix the broken classes in 4.05 with some care and respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Character
    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Not to hijack the topic but:
    Just out of curiosity, what Job's do everyone think need an IMMEDIATE fix and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syfurion View Post
    MCH immediately springs to mind. They don't.... do anything useful. At all.
    I know MCH needs it real bad.
    High skill cap for absolutely nothing in return.
    The DPS is weak, almost always has been.
    They are kinda toe and toe with BRD damage but BRD has Party buffs going 24/7.
    They need to do what they did to SAM.
    Give them pure DPS and no utility or something and make it a true physical range DPS I guess.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 07-07-2017 at 01:23 PM.

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    Character
    Vahette Lauclaire
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Not to hijack the topic but:
    Just out of curiosity, what Job's do everyone think need an IMMEDIATE fix and why?
    MCH immediately springs to mind. They don't.... do anything useful. At all.
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    Tigerlilley's Avatar
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    Character
    Tiger Lilia
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Monk here. Riddle feels absolutely awful. It's like punching under water. It's really, really changed how monk feels / plays and I'm pretty devastated by it. Since they also took away our dot management, then chucked on the slow debuff that is riddle, plus give us a "party buff" that we barely benefit from, I don't see any reason why anyone would continue to play this class. It's slow, clunky, and just completely not fun anymore. The slow plodding 1, 2, 3 that the rotation has turned into feels especially useless and dull compared to the ninki gage management of Ninja and weak against Samurai.

    I suddenly realise how 3.0 bards feel. To have mained and loved a job for so long then have the guts torn out of it is really hard.

    The worst part about Brotherhood as well is if you have another monk in your group and they just overwrite your brotherhood with theirs. Then you're basically screwed. I mean that isn't an issue for Savage but casual and daily content, it's pretty awful.
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    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 07-08-2017 at 12:10 PM.

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Character
    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Scholar. The class has lost its identity and I don't mean on the DPS side. SCH was the mitigation healer. They had less powerful heals and fewer recovery tools because they were supposed to prevent the damage with well-timed abilities. Now those shields have been weakened, and so has the support the fairy provided and SCH still doesn't have the same recovery tools. MP was also something a SCH never had to worry about, and I've been a bit shocked by the MP issues that have arisen when playing mine.
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    Katryn's Avatar
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    Character
    Sarena Veradayne
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    My main is whm and for the most part (excluding PI) I am thrilled with how it's doing.

    From what I've heard, scholar, machinist and summoner all need some help.
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    Annah's Avatar
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    as a Healer, I've noticed the MCH needs some loving. Those poor guys have some pretty bad dps outputs. It's totally not their fault. It's the mechanics of the game. Pit a Ninja next to a MCH...it's like a Astro Physicists debating with a toddler on the merits of quantum physics when it comes to DPS outputs.

    Like, I said, it's not the player's fault. SE needs to love them more.
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Katryn View Post
    My main is whm and for the most part (excluding PI) I am thrilled with how it's doing.

    From what I've heard, scholar, machinist and summoner all need some help.
    I agree. I love my white mage. I never run out of manna...and this is soooo refreshing in raids and trials. Pop assize with three lotus and *POOF* 8500 manna comes back...and the cool down is so short
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    Character
    Coatl Days
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I really only think MCH needs emergency surgery. SCH is not that bad people just freaking out, but some love would do it good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    as a Healer, I've noticed the MCH needs some loving. Those poor guys have some pretty bad dps outputs.
    MCH actually deals pretty similar DPS to bard, maybe slightly lower. The problem is BRD also has a crapton of party buffs and the MCH has one...which was nerfed..and is embarrassing to even talk about now. They could hotglue this by making hypercharge vulnerability go from 5% to like 15 or 20% or something.
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    Last edited by Coatl; 07-07-2017 at 01:19 PM.

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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I also absolutely love WHM. I even use PI as often as I see it pops. It's not the most powerful heal, but when you get the confession stacks it is free and instant. Thin Air is amazing, and I like lilies as well.
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