Phalanx Antiquated?

[Aratharn]

Uh, yes? Why on earth wouldn't you use Paladin?

Soloing. They said classes are going to be more for solo play and jobs will be specialized for party play.

[Fated]

SE made that statement quite a while ago, back during Summer IIRC. It is possible that they changed directions and decided to make the job system more of a general advancement rather than a party based alternative. Your base is Gladiator but you would be switching between different Gladiator jobs (once they release more) based on the situation rather than use the class by itself.

I honestly don't see the point of the current classes without the jobs next patch because the handful of abilities that are job only are extremely useful and finish off combos that the classes can't perform without the jobs.

Cross classing is also a lot less necessary now compared to pre 1.20. I mean, yeah, we still cross class a bunch of things but the classes now perform their roles based on their own actions rather than a handful of good ones from a bunch of different classes.

Just stating my thoughts, no one knows what SE will ultimately do till we get more information.

[Radiator]

Yes- and Tempered Will- that seems pointless atm too.. until they add more bind/heavy casting mobs.

[syntaxlies]

I personally don't lke the idea of phalanx only having a purpose with paladin, it waste a spot on my bar for a job i don't even have, and if you choose to stay solo(glad) there will be that skill there that is a waste. They should have given glad another buff and saved that for paladin.

[Forerunner]

Maybe if they gave it an 'Increases Enmity' Effect, like the combo it would supplement both GLA and PLD.

[smokymcweed]

thier version of phalanx sux anyway phalanx is suposed to be a rdm spellk n ot a gld abilaty wtf se

[buritoslicer]

Anyone else getting the feeling that Phalanx is an antique now?

I am trying to figure out why I would want to use Phalanx. With the combo system, I would rather use the TP for an enmity or damage combo rather than using TP on Phalanx.

Seems like a good skill to help you out while your leveling... actual usability during Moogle/Ifrit is close to none.

[DrekeLamorte]

Yeah all the reactive skills (except for Overpower) seem useless right now.

Phanlanx dmg is dec when compared to other gla abilities. If you're fight multiple targets, war drum is your best friend. Phalanx is useful because it's quick, and a minimal cost, which shouldn't get in the way of combo's. If your soloing then don't bother, use combos, but in groups, GLA doing decent dmg constantly is another great enmity gen on top of war drum. So neither are useless.


PS: What it boils down too, is finding ways to use all the abilities the game has to offer, as opposed to ignoring them because they're not doing max damage or giving you leet buffs. Remember Riot Blade + Contagion. Experiment. It's situational. And all about perspective I guess. /shrug

[Gamepsych]

What would be nice is if Phalanx was a combo for Riot Blade. Increase the TP cost of Phalanx and have the combo bonus be a reduced recast time for Riot Blade.

If there's something I'm missing about why Riot Blade is ridiculously expensive and has a long recast time please enlighten me but it seems somewhat silly that the ability it combos into costs less TP and has 1/4th the recast time. Making Phalanx combo into it would fix it nicely I think.

[ShadowCadja]

What would be nice is if Phalanx was a combo for Riot Blade. Increase the TP cost of Phalanx and have the combo bonus be a reduced recast time for Riot Blade.

If there's something I'm missing about why Riot Blade is ridiculously expensive and has a long recast time please enlighten me but it seems somewhat silly that the ability it combos into costs less TP and has 1/4th the recast time. Making Phalanx combo into it would fix it nicely I think.

Riot = Ranged attack and more for DD purposes/if lose hate to someone and have all vokes on CD

Well, at least that's how I think it is =O And iirc doesn't PLD have a WS that combos off Phalanx?