Phalanx Antiquated?

[Skies]

Yeah all the reactive skills (except for Overpower) seem useless right now.

I disagree. Feint has served me well during over 20 levels until I got Full Thrust, that still serves me well until now by giving me more TP. It's not that all reactive skills are useless, Phalanx might not be as useful, though.
I wouldn't know, my GLA is just level 6 and I seem to be using Phalanx left and right.

[syntaxlies]

One thing you may want to keep in mind is that the PLD will be able to combo off of a Phalanx.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...764#post449764

They should have both been pld skills IMO.

[DexterityJones]

I use it when Wardrum is on cooldown.

[Rydin]

If you can get Aegis boon + War Drum + Phalanx off... then I don't see why you wouldn't
It does good damage compared to how much TP you use... and if you can get it off with War Drum on t he same block then why not

[GreyJorildyn]

It's easy to justify something is good or bad because it works in a particular situation. You've gotta take a larger view of an ability like Phalanx (and even War Drum). Both are fairly useless in a kite fight, but might be okay if you're straight tanking something. Personally I'd rather dump my TP into a Fast > Flat Blade combo for the increased enmity. I know I'll always be in front of the mob, but I don't always block (and that's another issue entirely).

They don't have a lot of use end game unless you can somehow generate tons more TP than I can while keeping your enmity combo on cooldown. Given the choice, I'd rather Second Wind than Phalanx anyway (same TP cost). In the grand scheme of things I'd say that they are kinda below average in the current game environment.

[RolandDebreton]

It is excellent, and I daresay this title is antiquated.

Even Fast > Flat has a minuscule CD, so use this. Alas, opening up with Wardrum + Phalanx (both can be done simultaneously) > Spirits Within can be great damage literally wiping large sections of even 50+ mobs, can all work for a fairly stout hate inducing combo.

Plus, don't limit yourselves simply to your "hate tools" rather than using all of your major combos. I use all face directional combos, usually just finishing with Goring not to close the move ( I try not to spin the mob) but rather just to help DD and build hate. You are being beat on you have an endless supply of TP it would be silly not to do these.

[Phobos]

It is excellent, and I daresay this title is antiquated.

Even Fast > Flat has a minuscule CD, so use this. Alas, opening up with Wardrum + Phalanx (both can be done simultaneously) > Spirits Within can be great damage literally wiping large sections of even 50+ mobs, can all work for a fairly stout hate inducing combo.

Plus, don't limit yourselves simply to your "hate tools" rather than using all of your major combos. I use all face directional combos, usually just finishing with Goring not to close the move ( I try not to spin the mob) but rather just to help DD and build hate. You are being beat on you have an endless supply of TP it would be silly not to do these.

Please note the date of the last post. At the time people were discussing this, Spirits Within was not in the game yet. Spirits Within revived it's usefulness.

That being said, phalanx itself is a bit useless, but I sometimes just use it as something to do when I notice I blocked.

[elreed]

it isnt useful as u say, i've tanking lately and use that more often not as combo just to keep enmitty up with single mobs, besides it does good dmg and has low tp requirements, but i would like them to improve it a bit making it AoE dmg same as mrd, would help a lot more

it would be more effective if after blocking an attack the skill itself would light up to tell u that is rdy for use, same for the rest of those skills

[Rydin]

For Paladin... Spirits within is the biggest damage dealing WS for PLD...
The HP boosting damage and no TP cost from using it after Phalanx is incredible....
I know we were discussing this before PLD was in game... but it deserves mention that now, Phalanx is extremely relevant

[Vanguard319]

Phalanx lets you combo Spirits within for 250 tp instead of 3000, it also adds a damage modifier to the latter. Hardly dated imo.