Phalanx Antiquated?

[WillRiker]

Anyone else getting the feeling that Phalanx is an antique now?

I am trying to figure out why I would want to use Phalanx. With the combo system, I would rather use the TP for an enmity or damage combo rather than using TP on Phalanx.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

My GLD is only 30, but when testing out the changes using leves (solo) I found that I used Phalanx to bleed out TP bc I have excess due to limited combo options (combo skills on cooldown), least at my level.

Maybe not as relevant at 50 or in party play, however.

[zaviermhigo]

my bf is 50 gla, he doesn't talk on forums as much, he says same thing as op, rather use tp on enmity combo, phalanx is antiquated for him.

[Rentahamster]

Yeah all the reactive skills (except for Overpower) seem useless right now.

[Orophin]

If they were to add a debuff to Phalanx like Fracture has Incapacitate it might be worth using.

[Rentahamster]

If they were to add a debuff to Phalanx like Fracture has Incapacitate it might be worth using.

Even the fracture debuff doesn't last that long to be worth the cost and the hassle, IMO.

[Rentahamster]

One thing you may want to keep in mind is that the PLD will be able to combo off of a Phalanx.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...764#post449764

[Bahn]

Anyone else getting the feeling that Phalanx is an antique now?

I am trying to figure out why I would want to use Phalanx. With the combo system, I would rather use the TP for an enmity or damage combo rather than using TP on Phalanx.

Same feeling here. There's a good discussion in the Battle Mechanics forum. Phalanx being antiquated is not because Phalanx sucks - Phalanx was VERY useful in 1.19 - it's a symptom of the Combo system that is in its infancy.

What I think they should do is make a combo you can do off of a Phalanx - make the Phalanx actually useful to use. Something like Phalanx --> Some other skill = Additional effect - Lowered Defense or Lowered Attack to make it worth it to do as a tank.

Edit: I see Paladin can combo off of Phalanx, but again - what about Gladiator? If I choose to stick with Gladiator is SE telling me to just stop using Phalanx altogether because it's more efficient to just stick to combos?

Maybe allow Gladiator to combo off of Phalanx, but do less damage than a Paladin to prevent Gladiator from overtaking Paladin, I dunno.

[Brannigan]

Edit: I see Paladin can combo off of Phalanx, but again - what about Gladiator? If I choose to stick with Gladiator is SE telling me to just stop using Phalanx altogether because it's more efficient to just stick to combos?

Uh, yes? Why on earth wouldn't you use Paladin?

[Bahn]

Uh, yes? Why on earth wouldn't you use Paladin?

Why on earth should a Gladiator be given a useless skill then, and why no earth should SE be telling me or you how to play? "Don't complain, deal with it" will be your obvious answer. If that' sthe case why not just remove Phalanx from Gladiator altogether if it's going to be rendered worthless due to the incomplete Combo system?