Thread: The Problem of Hunts and early pulling in 4.0

With full gear resets being so frequent many people complained about lack of long-term goals in FFXIV. Well, just once they got one goal for many years ahead and still complain. I wouldn't even call it the rarest mount, many people will get it eventually before 5.0 or 6.0. Compare it to season 3 and 4 Light Party hellhounds which were one-time deal and limited to 30 players per datacenter. Now these will be impossible for most of the player base to obtain, already are actually. So for 99,9999% playerbase mount collection will never be complete. Nobody complains about it, but they complain about a tiger which will go nowhere?...

Originally Posted by SuperZay

With full gear resets being so frequent many people complained about lack of long-term goals in FFXIV. Well, just once they got one goal for many years ahead and still complain. I wouldn't even call it the rarest mount, many people will get it eventually before 5.0 or 6.0. Compare it to season 3 and 4 Light Party hellhounds which were one-time deal and limited to 30 players per datacenter. Now these will be impossible for most of the player base to obtain, already are actually. So for 99,9999% playerbase mount collection will never be complete. Nobody complains about it, but they complain about a tiger which will go nowhere?...

The main reason there are no mount hunters is because of the 1.0 goobbue that was literally impossible for any non-1.0 players to obtain. At least the pvp mounts have a chance to be obtained. And that is not the argument here. Because of trolls this mount will take much longer than it should for most players to obtain if they even bother sticking with it.

Originally Posted by Zakuro_Shishio

There is and has been a problem of Hunts and people deliberatly pulling hunts early.

just a FYI, there are players who have been solo'n some of those hunts and its not really an issue per say, if you go out to search for it then its only right you have first crack at killing it. its down to you if you want to share its location for others to have a chance at killing it.

Originally Posted by vio_p

just a FYI, there are players who have been solo'n some of those hunts and its not really an issue per say, if you go out to search for it then its only right you have first crack at killing it. its down to you if you want to share its location for others to have a chance at killing it.

And how do you think anyone can kill 2k S's and 3k A's if hunts are a free for all?

Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

Like some already said there is no such thing as early pulling and what point even do hunts if you need wait whole server for killing sinlge A or S rank, which can take really long and not everyone want wait hours to get all in server to joint the hunt.
Also if hunt enemies level would be upscaled to lvl 70, then there would be no point having hunt board anywhere else then in Stormblood main areas and having hunt enemy be invulnerability is not great idea when it would make killing B rank hunts really annoying when you can't do damage to them at all for a minute.

Not a single person is saying wait for hours. Most servers have a standard wait time of up to 5 minutes depending on what time of day and how many are out hunting. No need to way over exaggerate just to attempt to prove a point that isn't real.

What would you then suggest be done to balance out hunting and make it fair for the majority and not easily abused by a small minority?

So what's the problem against upscaling all the hunts to level 70? Noone is seriously out there hunting ARR mobs at level 50 in earnest, and it solves the issue of things dying to quickly for anyone to get credit. Leave the hunt-marks you get from the board at their appropriate level for sure, but for the rest of them...?

Originally Posted by Moonlite

If they had enough people why did they shout.

This. If you didn't find the S-Rank yourself repost it immidiatly or not at all. Don't go 1-2 mins to the S-Rank first and repost it then, just don't. And only hit it once and not one time to relink and then again whem you arrived...
sometimes I see people posting it again after 2 mins standing there or people really, really late reposting it when they arrive and even people reposting it after it has been pulled.

Originally Posted by Mandudez

This is very interesting because SE already has the stance that "early pulling" and such is not against the ToS. One could argue that someone spawning and not sharing the location of a S rank now disrupts their game play by denying them the chance to complete an achievement. No other single achievement can be directly denied by the actions of another player without breaking the ToS. And as their ToS states, disrupting another player's game play is a punishable offence. This has be something worth addressing even if nothing changes.

I pull first chance i get. Not such thing as early pull

One can argue that the people early pull S rank are denying people the chance to get the mount speed up map. the thign is, some people early pull just because they are asshat. They early pull because they can deny the people to get what they want.

Originally Posted by Charlayy

I pull first chance i get. Not such thing as early pull

What's the rush though. It's an MMO, you don't play this game alone. It's only a common courtecy to wait a minute so other people can get a credit too.