Thread: The Problem of Hunts and early pulling in 4.0

Hello,

There is and has been a problem of Hunts and people deliberatly pulling hunts early. This has been an issue in the past and is now more apparent than ever since ARR hunts die in a flash. There is a specific FC in our server particularly that is actively hunting them down, not relaying them anywhere and killing them early. This is effectively turning down alot of players even trying to do hunts and overall kill the experience of alot of the players on our server. I would like it that all the hunts get upscaled to lvl 70 or have a invulnerability state on hunts for about a minute at the fight start. This would kill alot of the toxicity against early pulls.

Has anyone else faced these problems?

Greetings from Siren.

Hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as early pulling in hunts. No where is it stated that someone can't pull a hunt mob when they want, however purposely resetting a hunt mob can be considered a form of griefing.

Do we really need another thread about this? There is no such thing as early pulling. It's first come first serve. That is how it's set up and how it's meant to work. The best thing you can do is join a hunt group or camp for the ones you want.

Yes some people are nice enough to wait and they are awesome, but there are a lot who are selfish and won't wait. There is nothing to be done, as this is how hunts are supposed to work.

Originally Posted by Zarabeth

Do we really need another thread about this? There is no such thing as early pulling. It's first come first serve. That is how it's set up and how it's meant to work. The best thing you can do is join a hunt group or camp for the ones you want.

Yes some people are nice enough to wait and they are awesome, but there are a lot who are selfish and won't wait. There is nothing to be done, as this is how hunts are supposed to work.

Maybe we can ask the community managers to put a sticky up there on the top of the forum...

'There is no such thing as an "Early Pull" - offically.'

Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Maybe we can ask the community managers to put a sticky up there on the top of the forum...

'There is no such thing as an "Early Pull" - offically.'

We can only hope.

Yes, this is a non-issue as far as SE is concerned. Hunts were never intended for people to create linkshells and call everyone out to them before killing. It's supposed to be players hunting them down and killing in groups making the effort to actually, you know, HUNT for the mobs.

To all the folks getting upset because S Ranks are being "pulled early": Either get there faster or hope to get lucky receiving credit, or go out and spend the time to hunt or pop them yourselves or choose to not participate in the call outs and keep doing what you were already busy doing that did not involve taking the time to go out and hunt.

With that being said, wouldn't be nice if people waited for the whole server to gather before pulling it? Yes, it would be but it's not happening across the board on every server and it's not considered a violation... so just deal with it or make the effort to hunt them down yourself.

#endallwhininghuntthreadspleasefortheloveofallthatisacred

Originally Posted by Thandronen

Yes, this is a non-issue as far as SE is concerned. Hunts were never intended for people to create linkshells and call everyone out to them before killing. It's supposed to be players hunting them down and killing in groups making the effort to actually, you know, HUNT for the mobs.

You say that, but with hunts being the only reasonable way of getting the grade 6 materia you want, I don't think this line of thinking applies to 4.0. Moreover, you only lost 3 stats if you used grade 4 vs. grade 5 in HW. Now it's a 28 point loss on grade 5 vs. grade 6. You could say that they've incentivized hunts more than ever.

Originally Posted by NovaLevossida

You say that, but with hunts being the only reasonable way of getting the grade 6 materia you want, I don't think this line of thinking applies to 4.0. Moreover, you only lost 3 stats if you used grade 4 vs. grade 5 in HW. Now it's a 28 point loss on grade 5 vs. grade 6. You could say that they've incentivized hunts more than ever.

There is the daily hunts that will help you pick the grade 6 materia you want. Though it will take longer as it take 400 Centurio Seals to get 1. BUT, you can also use the HW hunts to increase your daily intake of seals.
I personally use the daily hunts as a way to help get those materia faster, and just in case I don't make it to the A/S rank on time due to load times/not seeing it called out.

Originally Posted by Avatre

Something about wanting materia just because...

If people want clusters bad enough, get out there and hunt yourself for the marks and put the time in... I don't understand how this is such a hard concept. Everyone wants their entitled reward but just wants to do other things while other people actively look/stumble upon them running around in the zones/perform tasks that pop them.

You can't have it both ways unless, as I previously stated, you are fortunate/fast enough to get their and put some work in before it dies. If you didn't make it in time, suck it up and go back to doing whatever you were doing or actually start taking the time to be the first or one of the first to find them. The whining about hunts dying too soon is the result of people's false sense that they deserve the kill merely because they received a shout/ls message saying it was up. Sorry but you don't.

It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

Originally Posted by Avatre

There is the daily hunts that will help you pick the grade 6 materia you want. Though it will take longer as it take 400 Centurio Seals to get 1. BUT, you can also use the HW hunts to increase your daily intake of seals.
I personally use the daily hunts as a way to help get those materia faster, and just in case I don't make it to the A/S rank on time due to load times/not seeing it called out.

Originally Posted by Thandronen

If people want clusters bad enough, get out there and hunt yourself for the marks and put the time in... I don't understand how this is such a hard concept. Everyone wants their entitled reward but just wants to do other things while other people actively look/stumble upon them running around in the zones/perform tasks that pop them.

You can't have it both ways unless, as I previously stated, you are fortunate/fast enough to get their and put some work in before it dies. If you didn't make it in time, suck it up and go back to doing whatever you were doing or actually start taking the time to be the first or one of the first to find them. The whining about hunts dying too soon is the result of people's false sense that they deserve the kill merely because they received a shout/ls message saying it was up. Sorry but you don't.

It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

*Fails to see where I complained that I missed a hunt, as I stated that I use those other methods to get centurio seals in case I missed the call/got there late...as in I moved on and didn't bother saying anything along the lines of "damn early pulls, they all need to die in hellfire"*