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    Ya, I think Bahamut design should look more like a Stand or Persona, emitting from the back of the user, based around the size of the user, and when you use their ultimate attack they could show the design we see now much like how Hellfrog Medium is an in and out animation. Sure it's big but it's there for a split second, not a target and goes away quick. Bahamut's "ultimate" abilities could use that model in a similar fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Ya, I think Bahamut design should look more like a Stand...
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    Eh, people complained about egis being too small.

    Jokes on us.
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    Sorry I asked for a real SUMMON and I got it.

    It's big yes am I bothered? Not really. I'm a caster so I'm always at the back so it doesn't block anything.

    BUT

    I think it would be a good idea to spawn bahamut at the back in the middle with full range for all attacks. I don't see why it needs moving or being around me.

    Making it smaller would defeat the purpose of all SMNers requesting real SMNs. If it goes smaller it will become another egi.

    So permanent place bahamut at the back like 3 bodies back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Sorry I asked for a real SUMMON and I got it.

    It's big yes am I bothered? Not really. I'm a caster so I'm always at the back so it doesn't block anything.

    BUT

    I think it would be a good idea to spawn bahamut at the back in the middle with full range for all attacks. I don't see why it needs moving or being around me.

    Making it smaller would defeat the purpose of all SMNers requesting real SMNs. If it goes smaller it will become another egi.

    So permanent place bahamut at the back like 3 bodies back.
    Placing is not a good solution, it needs to become translucent for party members, there are mechanics that expect you to look outside the arena to know where something is coming from and even if you could place Bahamut outside it could still block the view.
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    Well of course you aren't bothered by it as much as the 7 other people in your group. I outright REFUSE to group with Summoners until that thing receives changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Well of course you aren't bothered by it as much as the 7 other people in your group. I outright REFUSE to group with Summoners until that thing receives changes.
    Sounds like you are blaming Summoners for your lack of awareness. I haven't had an issue with Bahamut, either my own or another player's.

    The only problem I would say he has is being unable to use any pet commands on him. His size is fine, he just need to be able to be placed somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semmi View Post
    Sounds like you are blaming Summoners for your lack of awareness.
    That doesn't make sense- awareness is knowing your surroundings... which is being blocked. I've had issues with SMN as well in situations where I haven't before.

    I just don't understand why people feel that the equivalent of a hand in your face doesn't obscure your vision of mechanics. Is it so much to ask for that others don't want to see your dragon?
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 07-07-2017 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    That doesn't make sense- awareness is knowing your surroundings... which is being blocked. I've had issues with SMN as well in situations where I haven't before.

    I just don't understand why people feel that the equivalent of a hand in your face doesn't obscure your vision of mechanics. Is it so much to ask for that others don't want to see your dragon?
    It is actually somewhat important to be able to see Bahamut. He has a healthbar and can die to mechanics, so knowing where he is so you don't nuke him with damage (some things can actually hurt pets) has value. Like I said before, being able to place him would be more helpful than just hiding him from others.
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    Should Bahamut get replaced with a Bahamut-Egi?
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