MP Drain - Fist

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

I would like to see PGL get an MP Drain stance/ability similar to the fire and earth fists. This ability would simply allow the PGL to drain MP from the target. Similar to the fire and earth fists, their could be a penalty like reduced TP gain or HP drain to MP conversion.

Thoughts?

[Meleena]

Make Murderous Mogfists MP drain

[yukikaze_yanagi]

or use sucker punch ?

[Meleena]

Not enough to keep stances up forever.

[silverdragontyr]

Not enough to keep stances up forever.

While this is true, you're not supposed to keep them up forever. I made a macro so I can quickly switch between the stances, or turn them off. I used it a couples in the arena battles as well. Turn them off whenever you're not fighting, or when you're fighting something strong to the element you're using. Furthermore, the amount absorbed seems to be based off damage, so use potency materia to increase your stance damage, use Blood for Blood and you can get about 300-400 MP back each time. That is more then enough to get full combos off before having to refill MP.

[Meleena]

I'd like to keep stances up forever though.

[Firon]

I recently won moogle fight as pgl and i kited the King moogle w/ earth fist up for 20 mins straight.

[ShadowCadja]

I recently won moogle fight as pgl and i kited the King moogle w/ earth fist up for 20 mins straight.

Gotta love featherfoot and Sanguine rite, neh? =3

[Miliant]

The MP drain of fist stances is too large, it needs to be reduced. Even using sucker punch, and featherfoot while soloing, it's still drains your whole mp pool within 2 minutes.

And what about boss fights where you have no way of naturally recovering mp? Depend on Sucker punch? I don't think so. Not to mention that using sucker punch to recover a little mp for your fist stance means locking yourself out of the Demolish -> Howling Fist combo which is a significant amount of damage over sucker punch.

The mp drain needs to be revised so that it can be decently sustained by sucker punch, I don't care if the drain eventually outlasts sucker punch, but right now it drains way too fast.

[rhelik00]

Not to mention that using sucker punch to recover a little mp for your fist stance means locking yourself out of the Demolish -> Howling Fist combo which is a significant amount of damage over sucker punch.

You can still use Sucker Punch without combo-ing it and still absorb MP. You just have to pay the TP cost.

The mp drain needs to be revised so that it can be decently sustained by sucker punch, I don't care if the drain eventually outlasts sucker punch, but right now it drains way too fast.

Personally, I think the directional requirement of Sucker Punch makes it harder to use effectively. Maybe removing that and/or a trait that piggybacks on Featherfoot's MP gain might help.