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  1. #21
    Player
    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Whatever Yoshi P says, I will be shocked if the new relic doesn't involve massive grinding of old content. It's simply too enormously successful a strategy for this game. Thanks to the various relic grinds people DID FATES. They RAN OLD DUNGEONS over and over and over and over. They EVEN DID CRYSTAL TOWER (for a little while, anyway).

    We might get something unique for the first and/or last stages, but if the middling stages don't follow the same patterns we've seen time and again, I'll be surprised. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.
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  2. #22
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    When talking about the next weapon Yoshida addressed your points, the previous weapons were designed in a way to make you revisit old content, the new weapon will not be like that, and so far the plan is that the weapon will be entirely based on a new zone called Eureka.

    As this weapon follows a different design philosophy and they want everyone to start at the same point your current Anima Lux will not allow you to skip the first step of the next weapon.
    If that is the case, then one wonders what SE will do to rejuvenate the old areas and content to bring players back to them.
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  3. #23
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Unless they make the zone available to everyone then I can't do it. My FC is poor and doesn't have any airships.... much less a house.
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  4. #24
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alestorm View Post
    Unless they make the zone available to everyone then I can't do it. My FC is poor and doesn't have any airships.... much less a house.
    If it's anything like the HW exploratory missions, there will be an NPC that can send you there with your pre-made party, or a DF party. All it took was buying the mission voucher(for gil) from a NPC close to the entrance NPC.
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  5. #25
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    Ayerinn's Avatar
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    Az Zurrei
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    i275 weapon was actually BIS for some jobs, so more than just a glam piece for some. Or good for those who didnt want/can't raid A12s
    So you answered your own question...you did if for the stats not just glamour. I'm really glad they are not giving people a head start this time around, no mater how small...
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  6. #26
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    So you answered your own question...you did if for the stats not just glamour. I'm really glad they are not giving people a head start this time around, no mater how small...
    I'm glad to know other people's advantages and disadvantages affect your life so much you glean happiness from knowing they'll have none :3
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  7. #27
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Let me predict

    1-Boring Fate grind for low RNG drops (oh yeah)
    2-Low lv dungeons runs (yay)
    3-10K tomestone grinding for a stupid item that cost 500


    I really miss the first step of ARR relic. Some trials, hard modes...good times.
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  8. #28
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    I really miss the first step of ARR relic. Some trials, hard modes...good times.
    I agree. I liked having those special bosses. I also like it when you're given a specific instance to complete. Specific tasks feel much less grindy than "spam this thing to earn a currency to buy a bunch of this random item."
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  9. #29
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    I really miss the first step of ARR relic. Some trials, hard modes...good times.
    Anima have a 100% trial step at the end.
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  10. #30
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Whatever Yoshi P says, I will be shocked if the new relic doesn't involve massive grinding of old content. It's simply too enormously successful a strategy for this game. Thanks to the various relic grinds people DID FATES. They RAN OLD DUNGEONS over and over and over and over. They EVEN DID CRYSTAL TOWER (for a little while, anyway).

    We might get something unique for the first and/or last stages, but if the middling stages don't follow the same patterns we've seen time and again, I'll be surprised. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.
    If each upgrade is a sequence of tasks rather than just repeat X ad nauseam, they could combine both with a better mix than just first and last stages. Have people repeat some old content each time, but include something new in each upgrade stage as well.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 07-07-2017 at 06:33 AM.

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