If your referring to me, i did say in the op that it is moving on its own when in the controller settings. Its more then slightly as well. It would be nice to have something to make a dead-zone, thats why i even went into the settings to begin with, i was hoping they'd have something like that in there. As far as the overusage theory, these controllers did this out of the box. I prob should just return them i suppose. If its not too late.