Tanks that think they are DPS, just stop...

[MercureXI]

SE should just go back to VIT being tanks main stat (damage included), and stop forcing people to choose between 2 sets when all other jobs just use BiS all day every day.

Or else you'll always have people ranting when a wipe occurs, that tanks aren't geared properly (be it STR or VIT, doesn't matter), and that the wipe occured because of him (buster / dps check).

I'm ok with having to choose between 2 sets (or more) ... but not when only tanks get to choose and get flamed for it ... especially when it feels like a design flaw (270 acc. really ?)

Or, heck, just add STR to all tank accessories and prevent all "pure STR"/dps acc. to be looted by tanks.

[ADVSS]

SE should just go back to VIT being tanks main stat (damage included), and stop forcing people to choose between 2 sets when all other jobs just use BiS all day every day.

Or else you'll always have people ranting when a wipe occurs, that tanks aren't geared properly (be it STR or VIT, doesn't matter), and that the wipe occured because of him (buster / dps check).

I'm ok with having to choose between 2 sets (or more) ... but not when only tanks get to choose and get flamed for it ... especially when it feels like a design flaw (270 acc. really ?)

Or, heck, just add STR to all tank accessories and prevent all "pure STR"/dps acc. to be looted by tanks.

I cant agree more, safety tanks will just deal way less damage anyway cause theyll spam enmity combo and nothing else, other tanks will be able to push it further, and use secondaries to bis their damage fix. SE isnt taking the zen approach or hasnt for some time(HW drastically changing stats like parry or how ap/dex influenced parry/block rates and the mitigation theyd provide) They want to simplify this, but cant see the middle road right there.

[Fyce]

SE should just go back to VIT being tanks main stat (damage included), and stop forcing people to choose between 2 sets when all other jobs just use BiS all day every day.

Or else you'll always have people ranting when a wipe occurs, that tanks aren't geared properly (be it STR or VIT, doesn't matter), and that the wipe occured because of him (buster / dps check).

I'm ok with having to choose between 2 sets (or more) ... but not when only tanks get to choose and get flamed for it ... especially when it feels like a design flaw (270 acc. really ?)

Or, heck, just add STR to all tank accessories and prevent all "pure STR"/dps acc. to be looted by tanks.

We have the choice because SE "forgot" to do an update on old gear. The reasons why they didn't retroactively locked the gear is unknown, but there's a high chance that it was either an oversight, or a technical impossibility (for example: they can't lock gear we are currently wearing. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to move that gear in our inventories though).

But it's clear with Stormblood's accessories that they don't want to give us that choice anymore, and they are actively trying to find a solution to that problem.

Regarding going back to VIT as a main stat, SE stated that they don't want to do that. Mostly because having HP and Attack Power tied to a single stat is something they have some issues with.

[Kazzoey]

This is outrageous, lol. Should tanks be tanks? Yes? Should tanks push for damage to help speed things up? Yes, but they aren't forced to. Aside from Gordias, if you need tanks to bust out their mediocre DPS to clear content then maybe you should find better DPS. Tanks will still do okay tank-grade DPS using their safe play style. A tank going DPS, in the grand scheme, is an extremely small improvement at a much higher risk of drastically shoring down raid damage via lost aggro or higher damage intake requiring more healing.

There's nothing wrong with huge pulls if you know what you're doing. If you're mitigating heavy damage and working to your parties' strengths then the Safety Tank will out DPS a DPS tank, but that takes experience. If I'm in a dungeon and I see a SMN in the party that knows how to rock the class then I'm going to pull hard. If the healer is half decent then I'm going to pull harder.

This narrow minded, elitist idea of living in a single play style is just as 2nd rate as the people who live only on their rotations. Know your jobs, know the content, know your party's skill levels and push their strengths as hard as they can handle to speed whatever content up to its realistic limits. A tank's priority is aggro, positioning, mitigation, and damage in that order. Tanks that stay in turtle mode are awful, and tanks that push too hard for damage are just as bad. Stay flexible and adjust to whatever the situation calls for.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Being a STR tank since 2.X, I SERIOUSLY hope they lock the STR accs while just increasing the weight of tenacity. That's all that needs to be done. Seriously... living in the past is getting old quick.

[BlackironTarkus]

It's seriously stupid that 5 of our pieces of gear don't affect us at all and are a complete waste to upgrade.

[Fyce]

It's seriously stupid that 5 of our pieces of gear don't affect us at all and are a complete waste to upgrade.

Having more HP reduce the amount of mitigation needed to survive a Tank Buster.
Maybe you don't see the value in that, but it doesn't mean that it does nothing.

[Erys]

Having more HP reduce the amount of mitigation needed to survive a Tank Buster.
Maybe you don't see the value in that, but it doesn't mean that it does nothing.

I don't like tanking, I suck at tanking. But what I can say from my experience is that this is false.
Extra HP is irrelevant to the extent that every tier we get ripped the same amount of HP percentage per buster. The only variation being the order in which you use your mitigation.
And chances are you are using a CD, outside of tank stance and getting shielded by a sch or an ast. If you are doing it right that is. Any more hp than necessary is a waste of stats.
Having more hp doesn't equal mitigation because you should be mitigating as a team anyways. And no, you shouldn't be dropping as hard as I think you are implying.

[Silver-Strider]

Having more hp doesn't equal mitigation because you should be mitigating as a team anyways. And no, you shouldn't be dropping as hard as I think you are implying.

The Blackest Night and Divine Benison say hello.

[Harz]

The Blackest Night and Divine Benison say hello.

Intervention, Reprisal, Apoctastasis and Palisade would like to get in on this too.