To the DPS META and please be reasonable with arguments

[Nezia]

DO NOT EXPECT RDMS AND MONKS TO ASSIST YOU!!! That is not their role. RDMs are the shining new toy that deals damage with a lot of style so that the boss doesn't decide to enrage and hit kill the band-aid that you are, and monks generally make sure to dance properly around the boss in order to hit their positionals and provides some group buffs to help with DPS. If like both the healers are dead and the groups is on like 10% or 5% HP expect the RDM to ress maybe 1 healer to heal the group up.

[DRKoftheAzure]

I pissed off a lot of STR accessory only tanks with my post on the tank role forums... and it is really toxic... no wonder tank balance sucks... and I'm a VIT accessory only tank.....

[ADVSS]

I pissed off a lot of STR accessory only tanks with my post on the tank role forums... and it is really toxic... no wonder tank balance sucks... and I'm a VIT accessory only tank.....

you dont get rank or points on here for your obvious troll posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkX-R19-NI

stop using DRK in your SN when protesting damage for tanks or healers. you insult the jobs long history

[Esp]

I pissed off a lot of STR accessory only tanks with my post on the tank role forums... and it is really toxic... no wonder tank balance sucks... and I'm a VIT accessory only tank.....

Hell, I am still using VIT accessories, and even I think your thread is out of line.

In any encounter, once that little "A" appears over you threat meter and that guage is at a good level, your time of generating enmity should be done until called upon again. If a tank buster or high multi hit attack isn't aimed your way, you are experiencing downtime.

Even enmity caps, and if it does, you should be DPSing, using whatever your kit allows. Heck, there shouldn't be a reason to even bother with your enmity combo besides the start of an encounter if there is a OT with Shirk around. If you can't seem to deal with tanks doing damage, well..Miner and Fisher seems like a job up your alley.

Seriously, these kind of threads needs to end.

[QooEr]

I pissed off a lot of STR accessory only tanks with my post on the tank role forums... and it is really toxic... no wonder tank balance sucks... and I'm a VIT accessory only tank.....

dude nobody even mentioned STR tanks until now. you started the thread with some "tanks and healers should be bare minimum mediocre tools that only keep enmity and heal people" garbage

[DRKoftheAzure]

you dont get rank or points on here for your obvious troll posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkX-R19-NI

stop using DRK in your SN when protesting damage for tanks or healers. you insult the jobs long history

What the hell is SN and I didn't know I got points or ranks for posts....

[DRKoftheAzure]

dude nobody even mentioned STR tanks until now. you started the thread with some "tanks and healers should be bare minimum mediocre tools that only keep enmity and heal people" garbage

Yeah I didn't think to also direct this to the STR tanks that may or may not lurk DPS forums... I made a mistake...

[Ryaz]

I look at it this way. A GOOD tank keeps aggro off everyone. A GOOD Healer keeps everyone alive. A GREAT Tank or Healer does these as well as helping the party take down the bosses faster.

That's the dynamic of MMOs that use the trinity. When tanks and healers are already capable of doing their jobs without issues, the only other way to contribute is to add to DPS.

It was the same way in The Secret World. Tanks basically got enough mitigation to survive the big hits and then focused on damage because any extra mitigation was just wasted. Healing ended up becoming limited to only leech Assault Rifle healers because it was the only healer capable of dealing respectable DPS while healing, so the other two "pure healers", while capable of healing better overall, were left out because their more potent healing abilities were wasted. But extra damage is always needed (unless you can kill bosses in one hit, which will never happen).

Honestly, I think one of the best ways to balance tanks and healers while still allowing them to feel different would be to allow them to increase damage on target in different ways. One could be a DPS tank/healer, adding more personal damage (Warrior/Scholar), one could be a support tank/healer (Paladin/White Mate) buffing parry damage, and one could be a debuff type tank/healer (Dark Knight/Astrologian) lowering enemies resistances and allowing more damage through.

[Emernium]

But Healing and Tanking in this game would possibly be the easiest among all of the top mmos period without the added complexity of min-maxing your downtime...
Outside of maybe Healing a Tank who pulls until they hit a wall while using no cds in dps stance. Yeah, I can see only having time for dots there.

[Crewman]

Take it from me OP. I was rather against the notion of healing/dps myself as I was used to that playstyle for years off FF MMOs. However, there could be certain points in dungeons where you have a DPS check, sometimes failing these results in a wipe. Progressing further into the game this becomes a realization that you won't be constantly healing, and what DPS you bring the table could be the make or break a DPS check sometimes. Since then, I have followed two rules.

1.) Primary job is to heal and keep people alive, this take precedence over anything else as death is bad mmkay.
2.) Secondary job is support DPS when you have the time to squeeze it in. If it is killing your MP grab Lucid Dreaming as soon as you can. (Role Action).

If you having a hard time swapping between mobs and party members, I would recommend building macros to ease this burden a bit.