To the DPS META and please be reasonable with arguments

[Ventok]

While I think OP expressed it terribly, I get the sentiment behind this thread. I think tanks and healers should DPS during downtime/rotation, but it's when DPS expectations are forced on them is where the problem comes in.

I play tanks to be a meat shield, to be a wall and to laugh at any damage thrown at me. But I've met too many players who grief me or other tanks when the tank doesn't get X amount of DPS numbers in ACT. Sure, in Savage where a slim margin exists between success and enrage, it's warranted. But in Expert roulette, players should feel free to DPS as comfortably as they like (which is where I've seen those types of interactions).

It's a small amount of times I've seen this happen, but it's silly to expect DPS numbers out of a non DPS role in anything but Savage and maybe Extreme.

[Lyrai_Celestine]

While I think OP expressed it terribly, I get the sentiment behind this thread. I think tanks and healers should DPS during downtime/rotation, but it's when DPS expectations are forced on them is where the problem comes in.

I have this sentiment too. Being used to DPSing as a Healer who can alternate seamlessly between healing and DPSing, there are times when the healer does nothing to help the DPS and just stood there, and I too, sometimes ask for my healer to at least try use a DPS spell when I am in good health as a Tank. Just one or two DPS spells instead of standing still and I'm happy enough personally ^^

But I've met too many players who grief me or other tanks when the tank doesn't get X amount of DPS numbers in ACT. Sure, in Savage where a slim margin exists between success and enrage, it's warranted.

This is strange. So far on my Primal EX runs no one bashes me for not doing enough DPS as a Tank. I tried using a DPS stance in Susano EX. It works, but if the healer is being overwhelmed, I'd rather stay in Tank Stance and survive better. I should not expect "Savage hardcore level healers" in places like these anyway

[Fannah]

I have this sentiment too. Being used to DPSing as a Healer who can alternate seamlessly between healing and DPSing, there are times when the healer does nothing to help the DPS and just stood there, and I too, sometimes ask for my healer to at least try use a DPS spell when I am in good health as a Tank. Just one or two DPS spells instead of standing still and I'm happy enough personally ^^

+1, no one annoys healers to just dps in a basic way. What we hate is to see someone acting like speaking on facebook or watching a movie on his second screen while others are carrying him using the argument of being healer.

[Lyrai_Celestine]

+1, no one annoys healers to just dps in a basic way. What we hate is to see someone acting like speaking on facebook or watching a movie on his second screen while other are carrying him using the argument of being healer.

Mhmm. It's mostly related to lazy healers, although I don't find them often in Stormblood. I get the sentiment in low-level dungeons, but I prefer casting a lot of Stone just to finish this dungeon faster!

If anyone asks how I DPS as a healer? I am like...
Cure II Regen Assize Holy Aero III Cure II Holy Holy Cure II Stone IV!~

I already felt like both a Healer and DPS at the same time and every enemy melts before my white magic! What a good time to be a healer. ^^