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    VerFlare tool tip is misleading

    Says can only be cast after landing enchanted redoublement.
    But it actually can only be cast after the chain.

    Seriously this sword chain should just be like one button.
    You literally only use it together anyway.

    Free the sword! Free the redmage!
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Here I thought it was self-explanatory...
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    If you using a non-enchanted redoublement, you are doing it wrong. You want a 3 button combo to be one button? Really? While we are at it why don't we reduce every job that has a 3 button combo to just 1 button because apparently hitting 3 buttons is too hard for some people. I sincerely hope this is a troll post.
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    actually if you use a enchanted redoublement..without the chain it does not activate verflare/verholy. you have to do the whole thing. it does not say that in the tool tip. boop
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    You want a 3 button combo to be one button? Really? While we are at it why don't we reduce every job that has a 3 button combo to just 1 button because apparently hitting 3 buttons is too hard for some people. I sincerely hope this is a troll post.
    They are all set up like that in pvp now. Yoshida said he would consider it for pve based on feedback, but some jobs are better without it, and apparently it's extra work for the server to have it changing your button that way. But yeah, rdm melee combo isn't interesting, they could totally compact that 1-2-3 into 1-1-1 for convenience since you don't have any other combo branches to consider, it's always that same sequence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    actually if you use a enchanted redoublement..without the chain it does not activate verflare/verholy. you have to do the whole thing. it does not say that in the tool tip. boop
    If you actually read tooltips you would know that you can't use enchanted redoublement unless you do the chain, which obviously means if you try using redoublement by itself obviously it won't proc verflare/holy. I'm pretty sure this is a troll post at this point, no idea why I'm responding seriously.
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    Peklo Alvane
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    Oh no, how dare SE not write "after using melee combo" for people to realize that a non-combo weaponskill should not be used?
    100 potency vs 470, even Enchanted Riposte is 210 potency so WHY would you even use Enchanted Redoublement without comboing it?
    And yes, god forbid you're punished for bad play!

    The tool tip is the least of your worries, mate.
    Just place the buttons next to each other and build some muscle memory so you don't mess up the oh so confusing 1-2-3 rotation that is RDM melee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    If you actually read tooltips you would know that you can't use enchanted redoublement unless you do the chain
    yes, actually, you can. as far as I can tell. pretty sure i've accidentally done it at least once.

    Here is the tooltip: http://xivdb.com/action/7529/enchanted+redoublement

    nowhere there does it say that the combo is REQUIRED to use the skill. you just don't get the potency increase from the combo. but you CAN spam ER as much as you want without the combo, for 100 potency. the only thing it requires is Black/White Mana.

    Redoublement does not become Enchanted by doing the combo. It becomes Enchanted by having more than 30 Black/White Mana.

    don't get me wrong, you would realistically NEVER use this skill uncombo'd. But it is still possible to do so.
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    Last edited by JMadFour; 07-06-2017 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peklo View Post
    *snip*
    in your haste to be condescending little popoto, I think you missed his point.

    the tooltip for Veflare says "AFTER LANDING ENCHANTED REDOUBLEMENT." You can "land Enchanted Redoublement" by itself without using the combo, for 100 potency. but Verflare won't activate.

    It only activates after you do the full combo. and the tooltip should reflect that.

    it's not a matter of "being bad." it is a matter of having accurate tooltips.

    no, this does not mean you SHOULD use it without the combo. but you CAN. and for this reason, the tooltip is not accurate.

    if I understand the OP correctly.
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    Last edited by JMadFour; 07-06-2017 at 11:08 AM.

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    Peklo Alvane
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMadFour View Post
    *snip*
    I did not miss his point about an irrelevant tool tip error.
    The fact that there even needs to be a clear statement about using it comboed is nitpicking.
    Nitpicking about a tool tip error is more than enough for me to be a condescending popoto.

    "Can only be used after landing a comboed Enchanted Redoublement"
    There, hopefully SE fixes this HUMONGOUS tool tip error so people can learn how to play a certain job correctly.
    And yes it is about being bad if this topic is even a thing to be worried about.
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    Last edited by Peklo; 07-06-2017 at 11:25 AM.

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