#deletejumppotion - new/returning players should read this

[Avatre]

Umm well I forgot to mention that his only job was pld at 60 + sprout icon. So assume he bought the jump potion. + if we consider he is a bot, shouldnt we worry about ppl abusing the pot to bot actually?

They would have to be one of two things for it to be worth it(especially if they get ban hammered for something):
1. They are rich and don't care about money
2. Making real money off of the botting to be able to buy more and more as their accounts are banned(having talked to some community managers from other game forums it's hard to do an IP ban for some because some areas use regional IP, and they would essentially be banning legit gamers if they did so, and must do an account by account ban/check)...though with this one they could actually ban the SE account that the game is registered to in order to counter act it...

[Malzian]

Umm well I forgot to mention that his only job was pld at 60 + sprout icon. So assume he bought the jump potion. + if we consider he is a bot, shouldnt we worry about ppl abusing the pot to bot actually?

Fair, though getting a PLD to 60 in the span where you're still a sprout is really easy now with all the enhanced EXP and not needing to level CNJ to 15 as well.

Putting that aside along with the bot problem, since that is a problem and always will be, I don't see how: "New player uses jump potion" + "Jumped PLD doesn't use Shield Oath and doesn't respond" = "Jump potions are bad and should be removed"

To me that seems more like a player issue, not specifically the item issue. There are ways that could be remedied by forcing players who jump to finish some starter training before being able to play in dungeon content (annoying for people jumping alts, but small price to pay), but once again that's a player issue, not a item issue in my opinion.

[BigRed5392]

Maybe it was a tank bot?

bots run with bots, as there is a high risk of being reported.

[Avatre]

Had a similar incident(don't know if the person used a jump potion or not) with a tank in Stone Vigil HM about a week, maybe week and a half, ago. Duty starts, they run back and sit on a bench by the campfire. The three others(WHM, and 2 RDM) didn't even notice until we had started killing the mobs(we just sprinted because the first batch are too easy), we asked the tank if they were going to come help and they actually responded "no". Since us three are in a FC together, we said in there we're not kicking him and will take our time finishing. We made it to the first boss, and of course because we were particularly squishy due to not being over geared, and because no heals from RDM to help at that point, we wipe. Tank pulls boss 3x and runs out of arena after that. Then leaves the duty(thankfully, as we were probably going to kick him later on if he kept it up...like before final boss).

I'll hazard a guess and say it was because it was a tank and they wanted to just finish the duty. Waiting for a replacement tank to queue in progress can really, really suck. Most times it ends up like waiting in a DPS queue except you're already in the dungeon.

I find getting replacement tanks isn't that bad. Replacement HEALERS on the other hand...

[Priya]

Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

And they were in the game well before jump potions were.

[xbahax92]

Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

And they were in the game well before jump potions were.

He did view the cutscene at the entrance and boss fight. I am not sure if bots can or cant skip cutscenes based on the program.. So yea, maybe its true.

[ReplicaX]

I know there are many threads already about this kind of topic. And I also know this was just a "rare" case, but I still think it is appropiate to mention it once again.

I know it is a "rare" case, but I think its appropriate to let you know the player base experiences the same things prior and after jump potions were introduced in this game.

AKA it happens without jump potion players.

Also:

Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

And they were in the game well before jump potions were.

Over exaggerated Titles never disappoint here.

[Aomine1992]

Had this issue in in the level 61 dungeon the tank (with the new person icon ) would not use shield path lol I was the healer And explained what it was and had the team wait five mins to help him out, I was sadly ignored and hit with a "my sub, my game play" and the dps didn't want to kick him because they already waited 40+ mins to get in there and I didn't want the penalty for leaving :/ I still have no clue how we completed it but the dps were getting smashed lol

[FallenArisen0990]

Had this issue in in the level 61 dungeon the tank (with the new person icon ) would not use shield path lol I was the healer And explained what it was and had the team wait five mins to help him out, I was sadly ignored and hit with a "my sub, my game play" and the dps didn't want to kick him because they already waited 40+ mins to get in there and I didn't want the penalty for leaving :/ I still have no clue how we completed it but the dps were getting smashed lol

That's when I would've stop healing. That type of attitude is something I will not tolerate. I'm open to helping people but when you disregard the bases of your Job, I have zero tolerance.

[Annah]

he may be on a PS4 without a keyboard