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  1. #11
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katryn View Post
    It is possible your tank was playing with a controller--that can make communicating harder. Also, was the conversation during or in between fights? I am too busy healing to even think of looking at a chat box for anything more than pre-determined shorthand (eg. one RM group decided to macro DD if shiva cast diamond dust since i was having trouble spotting it--i'm legally blind.) when a fight is going on. Further, if the tank did jump it's entirely possible they didn't / don't even know what Shield Oath is. That's annoying, but it's the truth.

    Talking about someone like they aren't there is rude, though. If their performance did not seem satisfactory to the group, they should have been kicked. There was no need for drama.
    Yea sadly he never actually waited. He just ran with his pace and didnt care for others. I mean with <se.1> you can notify someone to check the chat atleast. But yet not response. He stayed in the sword oath stance for the whole fight, while we had to deal with little casualties (we as dps tanking trash mobs, the healer had to heal everyone). He didnt lose aggro on bosses, but I guess thats cause the dungeon was easy.

    And again, this is just a callout for the harder dungeons and endgame content. People complain about getting kicked in chats and whine about why they get booted. Underperformance is a reason which many dont assume.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Novus View Post
    I'll hazard a guess and say it was because it was a tank and they wanted to just finish the duty. Waiting for a replacement tank to queue in progress can really, really suck. Most times it ends up like waiting in a DPS queue except you're already in the dungeon.
    You got it right friend. It was a low level roulette, getting replacement for that one during peak hours... is insane wait time.
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  2. #12
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    Nikolas Flamel
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Maybe it was a tank bot?
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  3. #13
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Had a similar incident(don't know if the person used a jump potion or not) with a tank in Stone Vigil HM about a week, maybe week and a half, ago. Duty starts, they run back and sit on a bench by the campfire. The three others(WHM, and 2 RDM) didn't even notice until we had started killing the mobs(we just sprinted because the first batch are too easy), we asked the tank if they were going to come help and they actually responded "no". Since us three are in a FC together, we said in there we're not kicking him and will take our time finishing. We made it to the first boss, and of course because we were particularly squishy due to not being over geared, and because no heals from RDM to help at that point, we wipe. Tank pulls boss 3x and runs out of arena after that. Then leaves the duty(thankfully, as we were probably going to kick him later on if he kept it up...like before final boss).


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Novus View Post
    I'll hazard a guess and say it was because it was a tank and they wanted to just finish the duty. Waiting for a replacement tank to queue in progress can really, really suck. Most times it ends up like waiting in a DPS queue except you're already in the dungeon.
    I find getting replacement tanks isn't that bad. Replacement HEALERS on the other hand...
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    Last edited by Avatre; 07-06-2017 at 03:35 AM. Reason: Wrong dungeon name....oops

  4. #14
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    Priya Eridian
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    Leviathan
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    Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

    And they were in the game well before jump potions were.
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  5. #15
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

    And they were in the game well before jump potions were.
    He did view the cutscene at the entrance and boss fight. I am not sure if bots can or cant skip cutscenes based on the program.. So yea, maybe its true.
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  6. #16
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolas View Post
    Maybe it was a tank bot?
    My first thought was this. My second thought was maybe they don't speak English. My third thought was, "This has been an issue since before jump potions were added to the game so how does this justify the '#deletejumppotions' tag?"

    I've thought about jumping my alt on Diabolos since ours my third alt and I've already done 2 to 60 (my main to all 60s), why should I do it again for a character I made for one specific purpose on another server (which is to attend ASR shows, btw).
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  7. #17
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I know there are many threads already about this kind of topic. And I also know this was just a "rare" case, but I still think it is appropiate to mention it once again.
    I know it is a "rare" case, but I think its appropriate to let you know the player base experiences the same things prior and after jump potions were introduced in this game.

    AKA it happens without jump potion players.

    Also:

    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Most likely a bot. I've seen plenty of tank bots in this game. They never respond, never use proper rotations/cd's, don't care about aggro, and run straight to every chest.

    And they were in the game well before jump potions were.

    Over exaggerated Titles never disappoint here.
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  8. #18
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    My first thought was this. My second thought was maybe they don't speak English. My third thought was, "This has been an issue since before jump potions were added to the game so how does this justify the '#deletejumppotions' tag?"

    I've thought about jumping my alt on Diabolos since ours my third alt and I've already done 2 to 60 (my main to all 60s), why should I do it again for a character I made for one specific purpose on another server (which is to attend ASR shows, btw).
    Umm well I forgot to mention that his only job was pld at 60 + sprout icon. So assume he bought the jump potion. + if we consider he is a bot, shouldnt we worry about ppl abusing the pot to bot actually?
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  9. #19
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Umm well I forgot to mention that his only job was pld at 60 + sprout icon. So assume he bought the jump potion. + if we consider he is a bot, shouldnt we worry about ppl abusing the pot to bot actually?
    They would have to be one of two things for it to be worth it(especially if they get ban hammered for something):
    1. They are rich and don't care about money
    2. Making real money off of the botting to be able to buy more and more as their accounts are banned(having talked to some community managers from other game forums it's hard to do an IP ban for some because some areas use regional IP, and they would essentially be banning legit gamers if they did so, and must do an account by account ban/check)...though with this one they could actually ban the SE account that the game is registered to in order to counter act it...
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    Last edited by Avatre; 07-06-2017 at 03:24 AM. Reason: More info...YAY!

  10. #20
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Had this issue in in the level 61 dungeon the tank (with the new person icon ) would not use shield path lol I was the healer And explained what it was and had the team wait five mins to help him out, I was sadly ignored and hit with a "my sub, my game play" and the dps didn't want to kick him because they already waited 40+ mins to get in there and I didn't want the penalty for leaving :/ I still have no clue how we completed it but the dps were getting smashed lol
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