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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    I hold aggro easily, i don't know if you guys SUCK at tanking, but you might want to git gud and upgrade your weapon even if it isn't BiS. Weapon Dmg > BiS Scrub. Weapon should always be the priority when gearing a tank, with left side close second and right side last. I see too many noob gearing the right side first, which are the main people that usually struggle with enmity.

    Bye .
    if they dont do anything to scale enmity/damage done, in your fending accessories, good luck holding hate by 4.4, while dps and healers main stat keeps going up via the right side gear. Ifyou dont think this will matter, how much more damage are tanks getting with level 60 accessories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    if they dont do anything to scale enmity/damage done, in your fending accessories, good luck holding hate by 4.4, while dps and healers main stat keeps going up via the right side gear. Ifyou dont think this will matter, how much more damage are tanks getting with level 60 accessories?
    By 4.4, i'll have a 4.4 weapon. Im full VIT and i don't lose aggro on any content that i have done so far. Only way i can see people losing aggro is if they don't know how to open a battle or handle 3+ mob, which is their own fault for not asking tanking advice from people or searching for it, instead of complaining on forums about something that's working as intended.


    The issue is the player.
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    By 4.4, i'll have a 4.4 weapon. Im full VIT and i don't lose aggro on any content that i have done so far. Only way i can see people losing aggro is if they don't know how to open a battle or handle 3+ mob, which is their own fault for not asking tanking advice from people or searching for it, instead of complaining on forums about something that's working as intended.


    The issue is the player.
    The "issue" is that tanks want to do more damage. Full stop.
    The only reason this aggro thing even started is because part of the community is extremely toxic towards tank (and healer) DPS, so tanks need to come up with an excuse like "oh less damage means I can't keep aggro that well" when in reality all tanks want is to do more damage than they did with considerable less effort 10 levels and one expansion ago.
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    The "issue" is that tanks want to do more damage. Full stop.
    The only reason this aggro thing even started is because part of the community is extremely toxic towards tank (and healer) DPS, so tanks need to come up with an excuse like "oh less damage means I can't keep aggro that well" when in reality all tanks want is to do more damage than they did with considerable less effort 10 levels and one expansion ago.
    Well to be fair even the JP community was saying that aggro would be a problem. See my comment here.

    Aggro was an issue while maximizing DPS though so it wasn't entirely an excuse. It was true to an extent.

    From here:

    It could be harder to hold enmity for a good tank, though. The way tank AP scales right now has DPS pulling ahead in scaling. In current AP ratios, left unchecked, DPS would have been ridiculously ahead of tanks. WAR/NIN shenanigans are the only reason enmity is currently a non issue while maximizing dps, not because of Tank AP on gear being decent.

    I mean, yeah, I could sit in tank stance spamming Butcher's all day and never lose hate, but that's not good play.
    For me personally, I just like using my full kit. I don't care about the AP nerf in terms of actual DPS ceiling, because I'm not hitting 3k anyways.

    But I do agree a portion of the community is very toxic towards tank and healer DPS.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 07-06-2017 at 12:53 PM.