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  1. #11
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Tanks should have always had extra Vit on the left side and the right side should have been either just strength type accs or some type of tank accs with strength being the base stat...The problem doesn't seem that difficult to correct there are many ways to fix one problem
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  2. #12
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    STR/MND/INT/DEX etc all fundamentally achieve the same thing (contributes to AP) to their respective roles. What SE should've done was simply create a new main stat for tanks that simulates what STR does now, then replace STR with it on left sided gear, and VIT on right sided pieces. If they're still worried about HP at that point then either adjust the level of incoming damage, make this new stat also provide HP (but not as much as VIT), or make the new stat improve Tank defences.
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  3. #13
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    Tanks don't need to do high DPS while actively tanking - if you want to be doing high DPS all the time then play a DPS. Ever hear the phrase "can't have your cake and eat it too?" It applies here...
    Why would I want to play a DPS when this game is so unfair towards them?

    In order for a DPS to do their job they need to take advantage of their entire kit, that's like 20 abilities! Why would I play something like that when in order to do my job as a tank I can just use three attacks over and over?
    And don't even get me started on healer! You're telling me I just need to press one button every 5 seconds?! Sweet! I need to go level WHM right now.
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  4. #14
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    Arnar Grande
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Or give Tenacity a role in tank damage that is meaningful, it is our role specific stat after all. That way VIT scaling isn't an issue and our gear is already dripping with Tenacity.
    I wouldn't be opposed to this. However, realize that secondary stats have always had a lower stat weight than main stats. So while it's possible, I don't see that as happening.
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  5. #15
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    That doesn't solve the issue. The issue is if they have both HP and AP dependent on one stat, it is very challenging to balance both, which makes sense, since via one stat they're dependent on each other. I think Yoshi's argument was that HP became inflated? If you lower VIT on new gear, that would just lower tank AP, and that may not necessarily what they want.

    As stated, all they need to do is put STR on Fending Accessories, really.
    With that idea, they may as well have only one set of accessories. I wish they made parry/block more useful by adding in a counterattack or adding in your next weaponskill potency being doubled. Doesn't have to be via Tenacity, could be via Trait for Tanks.
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  6. #16
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    So you wanna force every tank to pay millions of gil to get STR? Why not just bring back HW VIT?..
    Materia is very easy to get, don't even start with that crap. Even VI materia is easy to get right now with seals/dungeons/cracked clustors. With a much higher Meld chance, overmelding is not an issue. Overmelds have always been a great if you have it, not a big deal if you dont.

    I don't know why they wont bring it back but I'm not SE.
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 07-06-2017 at 02:35 AM.

  7. #17
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    And don't even get me started on healer! You're telling me I just need to press one button every 5 seconds?! Sweet! I need to go level WHM right now.
    that respond.. is lame and empty.. stick to your point. You clearly have not played a hlr class to the fullest.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    I don't know why they wont bring it back but I'm not SE.
    If you can overmeld a main stat what's the point of raid accessories then?
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  9. #19
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    that respond.. is lame and empty.. stick to your point. You clearly have not played a hlr class to the fullest.
    You're right I haven't, but I don't need to play a healer class to see that a healer has a lot of downtime to DPS, maybe not 5 seconds like I said but they're definitely not always casting.
    And that was just another way to exemplify my point, which is that you should take advantage of every part of your job's kit.
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Why would I want to play a DPS when this game is so unfair towards them?

    In order for a DPS to do their job they need to take advantage of their entire kit, that's like 20 abilities! Why would I play something like that when in order to do my job as a tank I can just use three attacks over and over?
    And don't even get me started on healer! You're telling me I just need to press one button every 5 seconds?! Sweet! I need to go level WHM right now.
    Lmao

    /10char
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