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  1. #21
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    it really isn't that bad at all.

    It just take understanding the mechanics
    Tell that to the other people not me! I got all mechanics saved in my head at 1st use of them, Im learning very quick >_> Most arnt even knew...
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  2. #22
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Character
    Estellise Valesti
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Cleared my first time running blind with an FC mate after one wipe as SAM. Only time I died was not realizing the tail broke the floor in the second phase. Bear in mind I don't do Savage or Extremes: Still a pretty easy but fun fight.
    Can't believe I'm doing this but... I agree 100% with Thunda_Cat.

    The fight is NOT hard. It's very easy actually, as long as you pay attention. Don't tunnel vision.

    And it's not even that hard to understand his stuff... He has "a lot" of mechanics, but nothing really new or special except perhaps the tail and the floor thing (I don't do savages so Iunno). You see a tornado? Don't get pushed off by it. See the ground turn to ice? Don't move. See "comet" indicators on the ground? Get to a safe spot. It's not hard and everything is clearly telegraphed.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 07-06-2017 at 01:53 AM.

  3. #23
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    NocturniaUzuki's Avatar
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    Nocturnia Uzuki
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    On top of that, If RM has an enrage, Ive never seen it. The trial is very VERY forgiving in that regard.

    As far as I know, it has no enrage. However, I've done it as a light party now several times, and on one of those occasions our party had poor DPS and tail placement. As a result, the platform became so small that it was impossible to dodge his fly-overs. As an 8-player party though, that doesn't actually matter if your party is good. As a 4-man party it wiped us though due to the Vuln stacks making it impossible to survive the Hypernova stack.
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  4. #24
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    Jib's Avatar
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    Jibikly Pureheart
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I'm very sorry but I will tell my experience. I went in right after msq cutscenes with msq gear and downed it on our second try as a WHM. I will give u this, Yesterday I went in as trial roulette and it was awful, a joke, 3 tries and a disband. Today though again as trial roulette I get 3 new ppl one of them a tank the other the second healer and the third a dps. They all said from beginning that where new. I and another player in french explained tactics... guess what... down at first time!! A few downs but with quick raises nothing special.

    Tldr: it's not a hard fight, def not savage level, I aplaud the effort to make a end patch fight challenging
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    Last edited by Jib; 07-06-2017 at 02:15 AM.

  5. #25
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    Rizon's Avatar
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    Quincy, Il
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    Character
    Rizon Cerberus
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 81
    While this fight is an excellent example of what a good trial encounter is; it is too complex, especially for Duty Finder PUGs, in its current state to be a main ingredient to the MSQ and the gateway to everything afterwards. Now that the main rush is through and will probably not revisit this fight SE must consider re-balancing this fight so that succeeding groups have an opportunity to successfully complete it. While others may disagree with me it is my honest opinion that SE must do this immediately.
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  6. #26
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    NocturniaUzuki's Avatar
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    Nocturnia Uzuki
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    While this fight is an excellent example of what a good trial encounter is; it is too complex, especially for Duty Finder PUGs, in its current state to be a main ingredient to the MSQ and the gateway to everything afterwards. Now that the main rush is through and will probably not revisit this fight SE must consider re-balancing this fight so that succeeding groups have an opportunity to successfully complete it. While others may disagree with me it is my honest opinion that SE must do this immediately.
    I don't think this is necessary. Not only will rising IL naturally nerf the fight, but if people can't clear it, just wait a bit and as time goes on, more and more people in the fight will be roulettes that know the fight. A single good healer can almost entirely carry the fight, as long as at least 4 players, including one tank, are able to die less than once every 2 minutes.
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  7. #27
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    Jibikly Pureheart
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Nocturnia- what u say is true... give it time please please don't nerf it...
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  8. #28
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    Naemisa's Avatar
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    Character
    Kiseria Luna
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 60
    There is one thing I'd like to change and that is the part where you have to spam your mouse button. I fail that more than 50% of the time I know you might think "omg lol how do you fail a simple button smash?"... Well I have arthritis and that means fast, repetitive movement causes my finger to get tired so I can't spam fast enough or the spamming hurts so much I have to stop and if the group can't do it with 1-3 tries I start failing the mechanic 100% of the time because I can't even try to spam the button anymore. If the timer was just 1 or 2 seconds longer I'd be able to do it, but now I just feel like I'm causing problems for the group on a mechanic that shouldn't be an issue at all.
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  9. #29
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naemisa View Post
    There is one thing I'd like to change and that is the part where you have to spam your mouse button. I fail that more than 50% of the time I know you might think "omg lol how do you fail a simple button smash?"... Well I have arthritis and that means fast, repetitive movement causes my finger to get tired so I can't spam fast enough or the spamming hurts so much I have to stop and if the group can't do it with 1-3 tries I start failing the mechanic 100% of the time because I can't even try to spam the button anymore. If the timer was just 1 or 2 seconds longer I'd be able to do it, but now I just feel like I'm causing problems for the group on a mechanic that shouldn't be an issue at all.
    You probably considered what I'm going to suggest, but when you know it's coming, would switching and clicking with your other hand help? I know not everyone is capable of using both hands equally(myself included), but it might help with mitigating the amount of stress you put on your main mouse hand.
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  10. #30
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aileen Pureheart
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    After wipefest after wipefest I just gave up and asked my static for help. All in all this fight felt harder than both ex mode primals. If I get it in the daily trial, I'm going to take the 30 minutes and go craft. I wish I had the good experience all of you had but mine was horrible and I am in no mood to give it a second chance, not for some time.
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