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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    They implement things with the mindset that people will be respectful and not try to cheat. Don't try and blame the communities lack of basic decency on the devs.
    JP can have similar mindsets....I hate this its all a NA/EU problem.....

    If people are going to cheat, they will, and they will try their hardest to do it. It's not restricted by global area. They just get more and more creative with getting around restrictions.

    Considering alot of cheats for games come from Asian markets as well other markets, one would think it definitely is a universal problem.
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    JP can have similar mindsets....I hate this its all a NA/EU problem.....

    If people are going to cheat, they will, and they will try their hardest to do it. It's not restricted by global area. They just get more and more creative with getting around restrictions.

    Considering alot of cheats for games come from Asian markets as well other markets, one would think it definitely is a universal problem.
    Of course JP players can have the same mindset: but it's not an abundant issue on the JP datacenters. We're not having PVP ruined due to AFK players or bots. Come level to 30 and play with us and see, we'll welcome you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Of course JP players can have the same mindset: but it's not an abundant issue on the JP datacenters. We're not having PVP ruined due to AFK players or bots. Come level to 30 and play with us and see, we'll welcome you.
    That you know of, just because its not abundant to you, doesn't mean its not....clearly it is if there are rules in the TOS against it in the first place no? My server in general is light on bots and afk players. So in my experience, we have a respectful and engaging community. But I realize its not this way on every server on my world nor in the game in general. We both speak from bias, but I acknowledge, cheaters are always going to cheat. On JP servers, NA servers, EU servers....etc..

    And I don't find my PvP ruined by bots or AFKers....and im on a NA server...I would not be able to play with the 300+ ping on your servers.....which is not the point of the OP.
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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    Kaylee Frye
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    Did you bother to report them?
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    I've been playing frequently and the number of bots has been minimal. They are easy points if you find them so it's not the worst thing. and most teams have been active in kicking them or afk-er's I'm just happy people are finally going for objectives now that XP has been nerfed a tad.
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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    Worst way I wouldn't call it the worst way it's all matter of time efficiency. If your DPS and it takes too long to get into a dungeon if you're using that to level then why would you not use front lines if it's quicker to get in even though dungeons would give more as a whole XP it all depends yeah quantity versus time efficiency which one do you choose?
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    Leandras Lionheart
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    So you're telling me the change that was far more punishing on legit players than the botters and match throwers is now causing an influx in apathy and botting? Who could've possibly seen that coming?
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    Welcome to rage quitting without actually rage quitting. Shouldn't have asked for the EXP changes based on if you're winning or losing. You guys shot yourselves in the foot.

    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    PvP xp was nerfed, so people feel more inclined to just not try when they see they are losing.
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    R'lasha Nereshyl
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    Yeah, this problem is only on NA/EU datacentres. JP datacentres are unaffected by botting in PvP. The exp change made the situation worse than it was on NA/EU and also punished 2/3 of the JP playerbase as well. I don't know what they were thinking with this.

    Legit players have been punished while botters don't care. It was obvious what would happen.
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    Also known as Yukikaze Yumishi on Midgardsormr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasenai View Post
    Aether frontlines are literally infested with bots. The past few hours there's been alliances where the bots vastly outnumber the players

    Earlier I had a run where adders had *four* active players and 20 bots/afk.

    This is completely unacceptable and makes running frontlines absolutely impossible.
    By "bots" you mean those eggheads that throw matches the moment they see their team lags behind?

    In you screenshot, there seems to be no flames on the big ice. Had they tried they could have salvaged a 2nd place.

    But hey, I don't pay their subs.
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