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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    The devs already admitted long ago that the praetorium and the other end-dungeon design was a failure. In newer content they usually put long cutscenes before joining the dungeon or after beating the isntance.

    If you want a story experience I suggest to maybe get 1-2 friends at level 70 and do it unsynched (it's more epic to be only a group of 2-3 anyways).
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    The devs already admitted long ago that the praetorium and the other end-dungeon design was a failure.
    And yet they still haven't fixed it. Sure, they haven't repeated the same problem elsewhere, but in all this time they haven't done anything about where it is now (which is far too pivotal a point at which to leave the storyline broken like this). It needs to be changed from a party mission into a solo mission.

    My only remaining hope is that the upcoming change for being able to take our GC squads into combat instances includes these two dungeons. Then it'd be possible to go back and finally find out what the ARR story was supposed to be. (I don't know how likely that is, since it would require significantly more than chocobo-level AI on the part of our squad. They'd have to actually understand mechanics.)
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 07-06-2017 at 09:29 AM.

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    It's literally impossible to do the ARR final dungeons and watch the cutscenes alongside the content. By the time you finish one cutscene the next one is up. Those 2 are broken and they gave them their own category in the duty finder order to separate them from other content. You literally have to watch them on youtube to get the story properly.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    It's literally impossible to do the ARR final dungeons and watch the cutscenes alongside the content. By the time you finish one cutscene the next one is up. Those 2 are broken and they gave them their own category in the duty finder order to separate them from other content. You literally have to watch them on youtube to get the story properly.
    There is the item in the inns that you can use, which I forget the name of, that is just ALL The cutscenes related to the story(maybe others, not sure never really checked) that you can use to watch them too.
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    Lord Capone
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I completely sympathize with you and am sorry your experience in Prae was not good. Unfortunately this issue is a catch 22. On the one hand no one was doing old content like that and someone like you who is just starting to get into FF14 and run the final ARR content would literally never be able to queue up and actually finish the main story leaving you pretty much stuck not being able to get into Heavensward content. This is why SE decided to make it rewarding i.e. XP for leveling or Verity for level 70 classes, so that people in your situation would be able to get these things done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caponesavage View Post
    I completely sympathize with you and am sorry your experience in Prae was not good. Unfortunately this issue is a catch 22. On the one hand no one was doing old content like that and someone like you who is just starting to get into FF14 and run the final ARR content would literally never be able to queue up and actually finish the main story leaving you pretty much stuck not being able to get into Heavensward content. This is why SE decided to make it rewarding i.e. XP for leveling or Verity for level 70 classes, so that people in your situation would be able to get these things done.
    You don't get Verity tomes for the MSQ roulette, you get Poetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    You don't get Verity tomes for the MSQ roulette, you get Poetics.
    You are correct..i got roulette frazzled lol..forgot I was running it for the XP on an alt class while doing the other on a level 70 for the verity.
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    i hear you. As a healer i had just unlocked Kugane Castle last week. The last boss was awesome. However, as I was watching the cutscene I saw the "this room will be sealed in 15 minutes."

    I think it is inconsiderate for new dungeon folks as well
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    Mateus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    If you pay attention closely (or not so closely) you'll see that final sequence is just a dog and pony show more for having a spectacular experience than to challenge your acquired FFXIV skills. For instance (you may have noticed) in the one going after the Ultima Weapon, some of the bosses die still with plenty left on their health bars.

    The video clips are part of the show. Should one be expecting the usual "dungeon" (I hate that word - instance) experience then of course it's disconcerting, so the vets I've played with are quite helpful in orienting noobs. Of course, this far into the game one knows to hit ESC to kill the video clip.

    The clips end up in your library and can be viewed at leisure later.
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    Last edited by Vamelo; 07-05-2017 at 09:23 PM. Reason: grammar self policing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamelo View Post
    If you pay attention closely (or not so closely) you'll see that final sequence is just a dog and pony show more for having a spectacular experience than to challenge your acquired FFXIV skills. For instance (you may have noticed) in the one going after the Ultima Weapon, some of the bosses die still with plenty left on their health bars.

    The video clips are part of the show. Should one be expecting the usual "dungeon" (I hate that word - instance) experience then of course it's disconcerting, so the vets I've played with are quite helpful in orienting noobs. Of course, this far into the game one knows to hit ESC to kill the video clip.

    The clips end up in your library and can be viewed at leisure later.
    should you know, look at oit from their pov. That is a bit of a prob with the NA DC, they can't look past their own nose. How many threads will be made till you and ppl like you kinda get it?

    And you know warn people?
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