The change to PvP has been amazing

[Dizhonor]

Speaks the Guy with the level 60 Tank gear and wanted to have PVP XP changed because 'HE' had no fun. Not get it wrong but you still sound like a hypocryte on that whole topic.

Says the person who has no valid argument, so looks up someone's game profile to make a personal attack?

[HyperSMB]

After playing more and getting better and better at it, I am convinced those of you who have awful winrates are just bad.

I freelance, play solo, routinely get put on just about every team and still pull 40% winrate with under 25% loss rate and since I switched to tank I am near 67% winrate.

That is pretty good EXP.

You know the only common factor in all my matches...me. Same in your games.

Equally, I have have been counting AFK players and it averages about 5 or 6 per match, not much different from before.

All in all it's been a positive change with the average person trying more to get objectives.

Small tip to help you guys win: Instead of being the 21st DPS in your alliance, play a tank or healer for 95% of the match, then return to base using "Return" and switch to the class you want EXP on before it ends. You will be way more useful to your team and still get EXP on the class you want.

[Mirch]

I do like how they reworked the roles, at first I was pessimist about the changes, but after playing quite some frontline matches and feast I actually prefer it like this.
Now yes, as a healer, no AoE heals is kinda lol in frontlines XD I like how now you can play more strategically, what I mean is before you could randomly kill anyone out of nowhere, rush in with ranged/melee/caster and kill people solo like it was nothing, now you need to actually work with your team to get kills, survive battles and such.
I like the pull skill of unmend of the DRK and I do think it really is an awesome tool (expecting changes soon), also the MCH as many stated, and I myself tried, can still 100-0 someone which is awesome, but we could say it's less frenetic to play now (maybe feels too slow?).

I would like to say those complaining about losing and stuff, if you want to win you can always form parties and be on voice chats, it may be easier to coordinate.


As for feast, they must remove EXP from ranked.

[Nixxe]

That is pretty good EXP.

That's a reasonable claim if you are entirely unaware of the other sources of XP in the game and/or incapable of doing basic arithmetic. Even with a 40% win ratio, you're still getting about 20% less XP than you used to overall and are wasting your time if you're in there before level 65. Palace itself wasn't even that good from 50-60. Its primary benefit was fast queues for DPS and/or a change of pace from dungeon grinding for tanks and healers. That anything post 60 gives less XP than Palace, which doesn't scale past 59, is a pretty good indication that it doesn't give good XP.

I did some more Frontline yesterday. I don't see any change. My team is still just running around aimlessly and would rather attack second place than get ice or attack first place when they're already engaged with the other team. There are still AFKers. My contribution still doesn't matter.

Edit: Also, I believe the buffed the Wolf Mark gains for all places. I don't recall seeing over 1000 before, which was the reward for winning, yet I got 1050 for second place yesterday.

[Moonlite]

And,the Adders on Aether, I am one of them, consistently lose. Even with freelancers. About 70% of the time we lose based on my experience.

The people who say one doesn't win more then another don't tank into account some things. Some of the better players don't freelance because they don't have to. Que is the same either way. Wins count either way, they should just make everyone a freelancer. No abusing the GCs. I admit I have done this. Some Friday nights on aether (pre 4.0) Flames have mostly same players so turn freelancer off and go from 0 wins to about 7 in a row.

Two the randomiser (not a word) for premades isn't as random as it should be. At least when you are in a small sample size. I get that it is probably more random when you get over 100 and way better at 1000. But have five games in a row with exactly the same team mates and same exact premade on exact same GC each time doesn't make that sample very random. It is also very disheartening. The only good thing is that you can't do what adders use to do and que in a way to get all three premades into one alliance. With that said I have seen two full parties of 8 get put into the same alliance. So the system doesn't take that into consideration.

[Korihu]

That's a reasonable claim if you are entirely unaware of the other sources of XP in the game and/or incapable of doing basic arithmetic. Even with a 40% win ratio, you're still getting about 20% less XP than you used to overall and are wasting your time if you're in there before level 65. Palace itself wasn't even that good from 50-60. Its primary benefit was fast queues for DPS and/or a change of pace from dungeon grinding for tanks and healers. That anything post 60 gives less XP than Palace, which doesn't scale past 59, is a pretty good indication that it doesn't give good XP.

And that's fine isn't it? They said it's "pretty good exp" not that it's the best exp. And that's how it should be! Making a PvP mode the prime way to level for PvE is stupid in of itself, PvP should just be a fun way to level on the side to break the monotony. That way everyone wins! People who absolutely despite PvP don't feel 'forced' to play it because dungeons and fates is better, and people who enjoy PvP get to enjoy it with the exp bonus.

[Nixxe]

And that's fine isn't it? They said it's "pretty good exp" not that it's the best exp. And that's how it should be! Making a PvP mode the prime way to level for PvE is stupid in of itself, PvP should just be a fun way to level on the side to break the monotony. That way everyone wins! People who absolutely despite PvP don't feel 'forced' to play it because dungeons and fates is better, and people who enjoy PvP get to enjoy it with the exp bonus.

That entire post was an explanation of why it's actually bad XP. Don't respond to something you obviously didn't read.

Also lol @ you think everyone being worse off is "everyone wins."

[Maeka]

Still doesn't change the fact that no matter what you do, you got a 66% chance of taking a huge hit to your XP per match and you're gonna end up playing the lottery and getting less reward, despite whatever efforts you put in.