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  1. #1
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    Miziliti's Avatar
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 80

    I leveled my healer to 70, and I finally snapped.

    I don't know what is going on anymore. Maybe mobs hit harder, but I doubt it. I can't stand tanks that pull big anymore. I've never spam so much cure II/benefic II/physick in my entire FFXIV journey. Tanks are now as squishy as DPS. If old cleric stance still exist, I will never have a chance to use it because tank would just die when I start doing dps.

    DPS now do horrible AoE damage. It takes 10 years for them to kill all 3-6+ mobs at the same time, while I work my butt off to keep the tank alive use all my cds. If you tanks manage to keep aggro, great, but it is stressful for me.

    Tank HP 100% > I draw card/dps once > below 50% HP.

    No, it's completely different than the launch of Heavensward. I only occasionally need to spam my heals and cds when tank pull big. In Stormblood, it happens all the time and I had to spam heal all the time. Two sets of mobs in one pull could already destroy my finger, which would not happen in HW. Gear isn't the issue. MSQ and dungeon drop gave enough.

    Anyway, you all better appreciate and show some respect to your healers because I don't plan to main one.
    (6)

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    Character
    Nikolas Flamel
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    My pld does seem squisher than before so I've been pulling light. What you said about cards is how I feel about using non-emnity skills in tank stance on trash. One rotation and the mob's ready to jump to someone else. It's almost like SE is forcing our hand to focus on our queue role. Just my 2 cents.
    (6)
    Last edited by Nikolas; 06-26-2017 at 09:41 PM.

  3. #3
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    The goal of SE is clear, to me.

    DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Apparently using i270 str accessories is the new tank meta, next time you have a hard time keeping a tank alive check their gear. Had an experience with a tank toting this build and this is something I wish to not experience again. That or the tank is not using CDs, good ol classic mass pull no CD tank.
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  5. #5
    Player
    Nikolas's Avatar
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    Nikolas Flamel
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    The goal of SE is clear, to me.

    DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.
    It certainly seems that way. I'm fine with that too, but I would like a bit more enmity generation in tank stance, or have dps start using their enmity reducing skills. Some of them hit like a truck.
    (4)

  6. #6
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    Elleia's Avatar
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    Character
    Attica Jurlon
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 97
    It does seem that SE adjusted damage, most likely because of the complaint that healers don't have enough to heal. If you weren't dpsing in ARR/Heavensward, you were either overhealing or standing around doing nothing during downtime. Now, healing seems to be more active. It could just be gear - we'll have to wait for Omega to see if this continues.

    Overall this isn't a bad thing. I liked doing dps on my healer during downtime because I hated standing around, but if there is less downtime now that's fine too.
    (7)

  7. #7
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    rabbitzero's Avatar
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    Cally Evergrey
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    Apparently using i270 str accessories is the new tank meta,
    Saw a tank wearing those, had about 13k less health then the tank that was in i300 gear. That's not a trivial amount of health.
    (3)

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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I, for one, welcome the change.
    Well, I personally wouldn't mind it - if that didn't come with people mass abandoning tanks and healers, thereby increasing DPS queues.

    Enforcing the trinity isn't worth making the game nigh unplayable for one role of the three.
    (1)

  9. #9
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    The goal of SE is clear, to me.

    DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.
    Agree and agree. I still find time to add DPS but it's definitely not like it was before (and I'm totally fine with it).
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitzero View Post
    Saw a tank wearing those, had about 13k less health then the tank that was in i300 gear. That's not a trivial amount of health.
    Yeah the WAR I had was about 3-4k less hp (in tank stance) than a PLD both at lvl 70, he was struck down by mosslings, the most fearsome of enemies.
    (4)
    Everyday is great at your Junes~
    RECRUITMENT CODE: E2NWQGY9 , 2W48DJNN

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