I leveled my healer to 70, and I finally snapped.

[Miziliti]

I don't know what is going on anymore. Maybe mobs hit harder, but I doubt it. I can't stand tanks that pull big anymore. I've never spam so much cure II/benefic II/physick in my entire FFXIV journey. Tanks are now as squishy as DPS. If old cleric stance still exist, I will never have a chance to use it because tank would just die when I start doing dps.

DPS now do horrible AoE damage. It takes 10 years for them to kill all 3-6+ mobs at the same time, while I work my butt off to keep the tank alive use all my cds. If you tanks manage to keep aggro, great, but it is stressful for me.

Tank HP 100% > I draw card/dps once > below 50% HP.

No, it's completely different than the launch of Heavensward. I only occasionally need to spam my heals and cds when tank pull big. In Stormblood, it happens all the time and I had to spam heal all the time. Two sets of mobs in one pull could already destroy my finger, which would not happen in HW. Gear isn't the issue. MSQ and dungeon drop gave enough.

Anyway, you all better appreciate and show some respect to your healers because I don't plan to main one.

[Nikolas]

My pld does seem squisher than before so I've been pulling light. What you said about cards is how I feel about using non-emnity skills in tank stance on trash. One rotation and the mob's ready to jump to someone else. It's almost like SE is forcing our hand to focus on our queue role. Just my 2 cents.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

The goal of SE is clear, to me.

DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.

[Nikolas]

The goal of SE is clear, to me.

DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.

It certainly seems that way. I'm fine with that too, but I would like a bit more enmity generation in tank stance, or have dps start using their enmity reducing skills. Some of them hit like a truck.

[Zojha]

I, for one, welcome the change.

Well, I personally wouldn't mind it - if that didn't come with people mass abandoning tanks and healers, thereby increasing DPS queues.

Enforcing the trinity isn't worth making the game nigh unplayable for one role of the three.

[Risvertasashi]

The goal of SE is clear, to me.

DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.

It really is not gone. HW was not different at all, at the beginning. We had people making the exact same claims/complaints back at HW launch.

Expacs function as a gear reset. Right now the higher ilvl gear isn't even released. But once it is, and we're back to overgearing everything... it will be the same as before. Already is with some tanks at i310+.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

It really is not gone. HW was not different at all, at the beginning. We had people making the exact same claims/complaints back at HW launch.

Expacs function as a gear reset. Right now the higher ilvl gear isn't even released. But once it is, and we're back to overgearing everything... it will be the same as before. Already is with some tanks at i310+.

Not convinced. Here we are not talking about gear - but rather about the revamp of tanks and healers. This is not something that happened in HW.

[Risvertasashi]

Not convinced. Here we are not talking about gear - but rather about the revamp of tanks and healers. This is not something that happened in HW.

No, we're talking about big pulls requiring enormous healing effort and being a huge strain. Exactly this happened in HW.

I'm not sure why people are acting like it was different. But it will be over quick as we gear up, hitting sync points on leveling dungeons and simply out-ilvling endgame ones. Just as it was over quick at HW launch.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I'm not sure why people are acting like it was different.

Because some healers got blanket nerfed - i.e. SCH.

[TaleraRistain]

The goal of SE is clear, to me.

DPS do DPS, tanks tank, healers heal. The meta of "MOAR DPS" that reigned in HW may be long gone. I, for one, welcome the change.

Same. I've been waiting for this for a while. There are some tweaks they can do. Tanks seem to be having some aggro issues. And AoE damage for dps seems to be down a bit. Adjusting those would still fit the roles so I don't think it's too much to ask.