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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
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    MMO's with more DPS slots still have long que times (up to 6 per a Tank). You can even go 24m for everything and ques just will shift to tanks till they stop playing and go DPS.

    And I never said non-trinity combat is bad, what I said is: a lot of players only want to DPS and that mindset is not compatible with this format. The whole point of people playing DPS and no healer/tank is because they don't want any responsibility (main reason behind DPS hating enrage timers).

    Non-trinity combat means that everyone has to pull their own weight and do more than just DPS or... go full glass cannon and kill stuff very quickly (fun!). There is a reason GW2 move away from it, wasn't working.

    Then you have BnS where almost 90% of the dungeons can be cleared without ("duty finder" there don't enforce tanks at all work like PoTD, a tanks can choose not to tank) any of the two officials tanks and without any of the two classes with good party heals, yet people still want a tank and a summoner the moment the dungeon is not a face roll due to gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    And I never said non-trinity combat is bad, what I said is: a lot of players only want to DPS and that mindset is not compatible with this format. The whole point of people playing DPS and no healer/tank is because they don't want any responsibility (main reason behind DPS hating enrage timers).
    It's not just that. The changes they made to tanks and healers made a lot of those classes not very fun to play when coupled with the combat changes and the way people play. On the other hand, the new jobs and some of the old DPS jobs seemed to get changes that people like and made them fun to play. The whole point of a game is to have fun, isn't it?

    Also:
    DS: Considering that there won’t be a new tank or healer job in Stormblood, are you thinking of any measure to encourage players to play tanks and healers as much as possible, to balance the large influx of those covering DPS roles?

    NY: We don’t want to force people to transition into those roles. Yet, for those who already like to play a tank or a healer, we’ll prepare more content encouraging players to play those roles. This is the direction that we’d like to take, as we don’t want to force DPS players to play tanks of healers if they don’t want to.
    http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xiv-stormblood-interview-naoki-yoshida-talks-expansion-improvements-paladin/

    They kinda dropped the ball on that. Healers got no "content to encourage players to play" them and tanks got/will get another mount apparently which may or may not worth it to them.
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    Omg where this people are coming from.
    I play as drk but want to lvl sam as well, i cant so it in 2 times the time so far.
    I am in fc,big one. Have frends. They cant be there all the time.not all in fc care to help.
    So how what you say helps me, yes ME.

    If all dps start play tank/healer we will have no dps you know.

    Se cant for starters change they way df look for dps.
    Lets say it look for rolls ,caster and so on, and not just dps.
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    After further inspection I've come to the conclusion that this is a troll thread. Sadly it seems we fell for it.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
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    I don't agree with you, take others games as an example: when a class can be more roles than just one (like SWG/WOW) the tank/healers is always the least popular option.

    All 3 new classes released by Blizzard for WoW can tank yet que times are still more or less the same.

    In BnS tanks don't loose any damage for tanking (Blade Master was top DPS for a long time) and still willing tanks are extremely rare.

    Also, something people is totally missing: tanks are leveling via PvP instead of spamming dungeons.
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