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    Patch note suggestion.

    I've brought this up during previous patch notes and I will keep bringing it up because it's a recurring issue that's continuing to bother me, using the current patch notes as a reference:

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...75523012584b54

    New items have been added.
    New mounts have been added.
    New minions have been added.
    This is what bothers me, I don't like the lack of information and I will continue to argue that we need more information about this and I don't mean the lackluster "this minion has been added" or "this mount has been added." In my opinion, the patch notes need more information on specifically where to obtain everything.

    I.E.

    For the new items that have been added it should just say "new crafting and gathering gear can be obtained from this vendor, this piece costs X amount of scrips, this piece costs Y amount of scrips."

    For the mount they showed, "the new magitek predator mount has been added! It can be found on a low drop rate in this dungeon or by completing this achievement."

    For the minions, "new minions have been added! They can be found off this boss or have been added to wondrous tails."

    Let me add, I don't care at all about spoilers and have never enjoyed surprises of any kind. I don't care about what story is ruined if they tell us how to obtain a certain mount or minion, I just want to know "where is the thing and how do I get it?" Compare to Blizzard's way of doing patch notes where they specifically tell us where to find every new item, mount, and minion they add each patch which is, in my opinion, vastly superior to how the devs in this game are doing it.

    Hell if it's really an issue, add a spoiler section to the patch notes that fully detail the run down on where to find everything so that people who would prefer to be surprised don't have to deal with it.
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    Sometimes they withhold information to not crash markets before patches. Otherwise, at least they're not Nintendo. You want to know what the patch notes for Zelda Breath of the Wild included? One line: "Adjustments have been made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience."

    Seriously, one line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    Otherwise, at least they're not Nintendo. You want to know what the patch notes for Zelda Breath of the Wild included? One line: "Adjustments have been made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience."

    Seriously, one line.
    You know, just because it's worse in other places doesn't make it ok here, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    You know, just because it's worse in other places doesn't make it ok here, right?
    No, I didn't. I guess I didn't really realize that SE delivers some of the best patch notes that you see in game patches, and they're fairly atypical for a Japanese company in that regard. Guess I'll go make a forum post about it.
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    SPOILER DO NOT READ

    Did you see how the 3.5 title went down? (highlight below for spoiler)

    This patch:

    X minion can now be obtained by defeating X boss.
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    i support this as well! i'd like to know what i'm supposed to be doing to work towards the things i'd like in game. as it stands now we don't even get a full list of what's been added.
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    With expansion launches, literally hundreds of new items are added. They can't realistically list them all because of the amount of room that would take. As a result, I think they just collate the 3 into "New X has been added" to try and keep the patch notes readable for people, and simply stick with it for consistency's sake. I know if they went into that, I'd probably balk at the size of the patch notes (I struggled with reading the SB patch notes because of the sheer amount of stuff in it). Though the Eorzea Database, you can actually filter it by items added in the latest patch, ED being something SE made for FFXIV. And I believe that tells you crafting recipes, etc. Failing that, there's always XIVDB.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    With expansion launches, literally hundreds of new items are added. They can't realistically list them all because of the amount of room that would take.
    Try this patch on for size This is when ironworks crafting/gathering gear was added.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...43b40551d1e3e8

    Make sure to click "View Items" in blue before you vomit. OP has legitimate claim but OP is misplacing discontent because patch notes and FULL RELEASE patch notes are different. FR always follows later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCream View Post
    Try this patch on for size This is when ironworks crafting/gathering gear was added.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...43b40551d1e3e8

    Make sure to click "View Items" in blue before you vomit. OP has legitimate claim but OP is misplacing discontent because patch notes and FULL RELEASE patch notes are different. FR always follows later.
    Crikey...
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e7c51abfa95055 (sorry, EU link because I'm European)
    But when you look at this one:

    New recipes have been added.

    * Due to the volume of recipes added with the release of patch 4.0, they will not be listed in the patch notes.
    But you did blow my theory out of the water that it is based on consistency.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    But when you look at this one:
    That's a good point. But for 10 extra levels of battle + crafting + gathering items, would you really want more vomit inducing Demon Walls of text? That list was just master recipes alone basically. It's incredible; I also support the argument that being too specific with expansion content is spoilery and reduces self discovery. Maybe a full release expansion patch might be the best of both worlds if done at a later date.
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