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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I think it's important to adjust to the situation you're in. Sometimes you'll find yourself with a great tank who seems like he never needs much more than a regen. Sometimes you'll get an idiot wearing strength accessories pulling entire floors of mobs in his DPS stance. Keeping on your toes is the most important thing.

    A WHM specific tip I think is handy is keeping your oGCD's on cooldown as often as is feasable. This is not saying to waste them, if you know you're seeing a tankbuster soon leave Bene alone so it can do more work for you, but the thing that sets WHM apart right now is the potency of its oGCD kit. The more you let them do for you, especially buffed by the lily gage, the more mana and GCD's you can spend on DPS.
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    Kalayel's Avatar
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    Metoria Urundar
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    You can plan strategies on how you spend your mana but there's no rotation for WHM. The most important thing is to keep up the regen, it saves not only PMs but lives as well. Tetra is powerful but takes just a little bit of time to be available again so I tend to keep it as an emergency heal in case something goes wrong. When you mono-heal, Cure is enough most of the time but I heard (didn't read it anywhere though) that Cure II gives a lily everytime, which would make it a better choice as you can cast divine benison pretty much whenever you want. After that, don't hesitate to abuse Assize and Asylum. Asylum is very good paired with other regen abilities (regen, extra medica) and gives you some time to apply your dots. If you want to dps, Holy is good but costs a lot so watch you MP bar and use lucid dream and it'll go up in no time.

    tl;dr: keep regen up, heal what needs to be when it happens (or prepare cast when you see it coming), dps when it's calm and keep an eye on you MPs.
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    NamoNanamo's Avatar
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    Mimifu Mifu
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post


    There is no CD reset when you swap out role abilities in the middle of a dungeon so it's possible to apply Protect and then swap it to something else that you find useful for the particular instance. Esuna isn't always necessary but I find it's good practice to keep it on your bar until you discover which dungeons you need and don't need Esuna for.

    I don't find Largesse particularly useful for WHM at the time of this posting (I haven't done EX Primals yet) as the large majority of the WHM kit at 70 will revolve around ability-type heals which aren't affected by Largeese.
    I find Largesse particularly useful for WHM a the the time of this posting (I have done Ex primal) As the large majority of tank in dungeon/Ex are in paper (low Ilvl item or I270 Str Force) or simply bad.

    Someone fuck up the thunder mechanic ? Medica II+Largesse.
    Most of your dps and your healer fuck up the vrill mechanic and got massive bleeding debuff ? Largesse !
    Your tank want to pull everything ? LARGESSE
    Your largesse will ends ? Swiftcast medica II/put Regen on somebody.
    You want to max dps ? Regen+Largesse+medica II if needed.

    I don't see any better cross-class skill.
    Esuna could be replaced.
    Break is meh
    Surecast is meh
    Rescue is meh
    Cleric stance is meh
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    Last edited by NamoNanamo; 07-06-2017 at 11:42 PM.

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    Stormbad's Avatar
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    Stormbad Worldfire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I consider myself a decent healer and WHM is my only end game healer at the moment. Doing the leveling dungeon Doma Castle lvl 67. I'm average ilvl 279 and there were some pulls that I could not keep the tank alive and I burned through tetra, assize, asylum, bene, presence of mind-cure2 spam to the point I was almost OOM and the tank still died. I have a feeling it's due to terrible gear but considering I don't have an AST or SCH to compare to, but man, if people have WHM tips to share, I'm all ears.
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbad View Post
    I consider myself a decent healer and WHM is my only end game healer at the moment. Doing the leveling dungeon Doma Castle lvl 67. I'm average ilvl 279 and there were some pulls that I could not keep the tank alive and I burned through tetra, assize, asylum, bene, presence of mind-cure2 spam to the point I was almost OOM and the tank still died. I have a feeling it's due to terrible gear but considering I don't have an AST or SCH to compare to, but man, if people have WHM tips to share, I'm all ears.
    Disclaimer: I don't have WHM at 70, only AST.

    Did you use Holy to stun the monsters early to buy you more time and cooldowns? Did you parse / can you estimate what the party DPS was like? Was the tank using cooldowns?
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    Stormbad Worldfire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Disclaimer: I don't have WHM at 70, only AST.

    Did you use Holy to stun the monsters early to buy you more time and cooldowns? Did you parse / can you estimate what the party DPS was like? Was the tank using cooldowns?
    Yup, swiftcast->holy for the initial stun. It's not like the tank died in the first 10 seconds, he died only after I exhausted every cooldown and even then was almost OOM. Yeah I parsed and one dps was around 2200 and the other around 1600 so possibly a low dps issue too.
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbad View Post
    Yup, swiftcast->holy for the initial stun. It's not like the tank died in the first 10 seconds, he died only after I exhausted every cooldown and even then was almost OOM. Yeah I parsed and one dps was around 2200 and the other around 1600 so possibly a low dps issue too.
    Yeah sounds like the tank just pulled too much for the party DPS and you did all that you could.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah sounds like the tank just pulled too much for the party DPS and you did all that you could.
    ^ I agree with this assessment. Mobs in Doma hit hard, even for a capped ilvl tank, probably because the syncing doesn't allow the players to over gear very much.
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    Rin Tin
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    For a big pull I let the tank get aggro on all the mobs for just a brief moment in which right after I cast Largesse > Asylum > Cure II > Divine Benison > Regen > Swift Cast > Presence of Mind > Holy > Assize > Thin Air > Aero III > Holy x20

    It flows really well making use of your oGCDs while your GCDs are on cooldown.

    Great thing about Holy is you can keep the tank selected while spamming it so you if you notice they're getting low you can use your oGCDs to heal them back up and get right back to casting more Holy's. Don't be afraid to use Benediction either. I pop that all the time in these pulls simply as another heal so I can Dps more.
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    Last edited by xNewbx; 07-07-2017 at 05:15 AM.

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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Medica II for a tank only heal is a waste. We have MORE than enough MP now you can use Cure II instead.

    Don't ignore lilies, they are actually useful. Assize every 45 seconds is wonderful!
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