Red Mages Needs a Bit More Complexity

[Brightshadow]

Don't touch our RDM it's perfect as is. When the level cap increases they can probably give us more complexity by giving us a AOE physical combo, and more abilities that influence our gauge so we can enter melee mode faster.

What you fail to realize is that we do have our own complexity.
1.) We enter melee mode and jump out of it around every 25-40 secs.
2.) We have to be prepared to provide additional support for with vercure, raise, embolden.
3.) We have to keep our eyes on procs and be able to adjust rapidly.

[Kabooa]

Making red mage more complex would require reworking mana, and adding a couple options to spend individual mana for a gain while keeping the 'use both to do the nuke combo'

[Meta-Flare]

Its been so long since I thought about robotech... The memories haha

[JMadFour]

honestly, not every Job has to have a 35-button opener that you have to study.

some jobs just wanna go pewpewpew.

the general playstyle of RDM is incredibly fun as is, imo. and fun, is more important to me, than complexity. but to each his own.

[LunarEmerald]

Nah. I like it how it is.

[Fluffernuff]

the only "complexity" I might want to see is maybe, MAYBE how our spells interact with our melee combo, allowing us to do it more often, or for cheaper mana. or something. Actually making our sword more than an occasional lawn decoration

I'm not really good with ideas though. and as RDM stands, doing anything positive to the melee combo is going to be a massive buff.


But to get an idea out there... maybe something like Impact reducing the next weaponskill mana cost by 50%? I mean OBVIOUSLY not that exactly, but that kind of idea.


Another thing for "complexity", having attuning to mana mean something other than lowering the speed of the other? like maybe have it play with potencies? having red mana (in balance) have some sort effect on Jolt?

[Ephier]

Verstone and Verfire would benefit from more depth. Maybe adding a DoT effect to Verfire, or a small AoE explosion to Verstone - overall same potency. Thus, Verstone is good against tough targets surrounded by weaker ones, and Verfire is good against strong single targets.

Trust me when I say you really don't want that. Your damage would be defined by RNG at certain moments. Just call it a blessing that the 300 potency is on thunder and aero vs stone and fire. Nothing is worse than DPS being hindered by lack of procs.

[NoxLumina]

No thanks. The beauty of RDM is how simple it is. I absolutely love how the class has no DoT maintenance whatsoever and no overly complex string of buffs to do optimal DPS. Just like you ask for another to not take away the complexity of decision making of other classes, do not instill your favor of complexity.

I guess I should go RDM too! No effort required, no punishment like Aetherflow and the bosses can't laugh into my face as they currently do when I wanna get a full Fire rotation through.
And sick damage on top of that!
Why be BLM or SMN at all right now, El oh El.

[JunseiKei]

I guess I should go RDM too! No effort required, no punishment like Aetherflow and the bosses can't laugh into my face as they currently do when I wanna get a full Fire rotation through.
And sick damage on top of that!
Why be BLM or SMN at all right now, El oh El.

Playground antics aside, it's a nice change to have something less complex. Most of the other DPS classes only got more complicated, then scaled slightly back for Stormblood (but that does not mean less punishing if you mess up- look at DRG and SMN). I guess there's a reason SAM and RDM were both made 'simple' in comparison.

[Amulrei]

I guess I should go RDM too! No effort required, no punishment like Aetherflow and the bosses can't laugh into my face as they currently do when I wanna get a full Fire rotation through.
And sick damage on top of that!
Why be BLM or SMN at all right now, El oh El.

I think you will find your issues are far more with how ridiculously punishing SMN is to play right now than anything to do with RDMs in general.