PvP Exp: Nerf and thoughts

[Synestra]

One person /cannot/ change the tide of a Secure or Shatter match.

Seize in 3.X era neverforget!

[Endemerrin]

punishment structures

For what it's worth, I reported a player for being AFK in Frontlines and the GM got back to me saying that they were investigating these claims, and taking proper action should the player in question be abusing the system. They understand it's a form of griefing. So, start reporting people. If some bans start rolling out, hopefully it will scare some people into not being jerks.

[Shut]

For what it's worth, I reported a player for being AFK in Frontlines and the GM got back to me saying that they were investigating these claims, and taking proper action should the player in question be abusing the system. They understand it's a form of griefing. So, start reporting people. If some bans start rolling out, hopefully it will scare some people into not being jerks.

That's an automatic message, While GM have been active during S1 and start banning people for those kind of behavior (even some cheaters in 4v4 party, at least on Chaos), they didn't do anything until stormblood, except against "Nice Job" Spammers during Garo. As long as Yoshida himslf don't get involved and say out loud that those behaviors will be punished, only a tiny bit (perhaps) of people will get effective bans, and by that I mean, no "2 days ban", real punishments.

[electricblues42]

Wonderful, there goes my entire reason to pvp. It was wonderful before this crap, because the xp was good enough to be competitive with other methods without being crazy. Now 2/3rds of the players get screwed. And it's not even like it's some personal thing either, what the crap am I going to do that will make the 23 other morons on my team not be morons?

If anything winning should have been given a 1/3 buff. Then you can still call it the same thing but the xp levels will be back to being competitive with the other methods. As it is now the 2/3rds xp is just enough to make pvp not worth the time. Even before it wasn't nearly was fast as POTD, but it was fun because it was still good enough to not be a waste of time and be a nice distraction from potd or the same dungeons I've ran a few dozen times before.

[Shut]

Wonderful, there goes my entire reason to pvp. It was wonderful before this crap, because the xp was good enough to be competitive with other methods without being crazy. Now 2/3rds of the players get screwed. And it's not even like it's some personal thing either, what the crap am I going to do that will make the 23 other morons on my team not be morons?

If anything winning should have been given a 1/3 buff. Then you can still call it the same thing but the xp levels will be back to being competitive with the other methods. As it is now the 2/3rds xp is just enough to make pvp not worth the time. Even before it wasn't nearly was fast as POTD, but it was fun because it was still good enough to not be a waste of time and be a nice distraction from potd or the same dungeons I've ran a few dozen times before.

That is your own choice,exp earned in pvp even by loosing is still better than most other ways of leveling up: fates, quest, and even dungeon for DPS according to the amount of time spend/exp. In Pvp, if you're team suck, the amount of time will even be lessened, in other modes, it can only take longer and longer by a far margin. Right now, only PotD is better. PvP is probably indeed the most enjoyable way to get XP atm. SE cannot reduce the amount of fun you have in PvP (or could they...) this is people own choice to choose the "best-xp but no fun mode" over a "not-so-bad xp but fun mode". Also, feast 8v8 brings better xp than FL.

[electricblues42]

The point was that before this needless change the xp was perfectly fine, it was one of the better ways to level without being too much. Look, I only have so much time to play, and there are many other casuals like me. When I am playing I kind of need to be leveling currently so that I can get into Stormblood and enjoy the new expansion. Doing PvP mixed in with roulettes and PoTD was very enjoyable, not just because of the PvP (which is okay) but because it was just as productive of a use of my limited leveling time as the other methods. The other methods you mentioned just aren't viable at all, no one does FATEs it's me solo 90% of the time anymore, there are no side-quests left and leves are even slower, and roulettes are great once a day. But the point was that PvP XP was just fine before, and now it's just flat out no where near enough to be worth your time. The only reason to PvP anymore is if you just want to PvP, or if seeing PoTD one more time makes you want to kill yourself. Besides that the rewards just aren't worth it, and that's a damn shame because before it was juuuust enough to be worth your time.

I liked to be able to do something unique and it not effectively be a waste of my time. If I want to log in and pvp all afternoon I might enjoy it more than PoTD all afternoon, but now choosing to have a little more fun will mean that I'd be leveling half as slow and be able to reach max level/raid with my friends half as slowly as I would if I chose to not have fun and just level. And if I'm not mistaken the entire idea behind putting xp into PvP was to allow people to be "productive" while also doing something that they enjoy. Leveling should be roughly the same whichever path you enjoy, PvE or PvP. That is the design intent SE is trying to achieve, and by nerfing the XP in PvP they went in the opposite direction of that.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The fact you said, "there goes my entire reason to pvp" is precisely why the nerfed it. They don't want Frontlines to become the new PotD, where all people do is queue in and barely participate because they don't care one way or another. I'll be blunt. If you're only reason to PvP was EXP, I'm glad you'll no longer bother.

[OcieKo]

Minor issue many of you have been forgetting, theyve been gradually discouraging dedicated pvp players since the 2.X era when they removed Morale.

[itsoni]

Except you're forgetting the part that even if it worked EXACTLY that way and it was all try hards a third of the players every game receive nothing, how the hell is that any fun? The rewards for winning should be for gear, glamours, items, not experience.

Quote me exactly where I said it shouldn't. In other threads I've said the experience needs to be removed altogether. The reason I put forward that suggestion in this thread is because A) It's about the thoughts of the nerf and B) It's to take away the reward players get for not participating at all and just afk'ing.