Thread: [SPOILERS] Revelations from Patch 4.01

Originally Posted by Alberel

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My current hypothesis is quite similar - Midgardsormr is a refugee, who came to Hydaelyn fleeing from Omega. Midgardsormr made a pact with Hydaelyn for sanctuary, while Omega crash landed and had to shut down for repairs until the Allagans found it. I figured Middy was on the run from something when Tiamat first mentioned how he came to Hydaelyn from another world... just needed a culprit as to who or what he was fleeing from.

As for Shinryu being based on Midgardsormr? Ehh... plausible. He is much more serpentine than other dragons, and Midgardsormr does call Shinryu a "vile simulacrum" (simulacrum of what?). It should be noted that people do call Shinryu by name in the JP version without mention of the name coming from the Domans, though given Shinryu just translates to "New Dragon" or "Spirit Dragon," how much that matters is open to interpretation.

Originally Posted by Akonyl

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I want that mount so bad... and not because it's VI fanservice, just because I like mechas... but I haven't even seen it drop, and DPS queues suck...

There was a Star Trek cameo in Spider-man: Homecoming?

About the multiverse....
The multiverse is every possible outcome for every event in every possible existence... which is why it's infinite...every ff exists in this way... hence why chocobos and moogles are in each but not the same... the representation of various entities from other ff games in 14 doesn't mean they came from another ff world... in 14 Cloud could be a simple farmer and sephiroth could have never existed ( hojo is in yanxia as a quest giver npc)... omega is simply using the database of villains it's aquired from reality and legend and recreating them to test heros. This is said outright. The rift exists between the multiverse. the other hero's he's testing may be the real deal but all the villains are created to test them.

Originally Posted by Eloah

I dont think there is another Shinryu, as basing it on past FF would be incorrect. In the story Omega was going to be activated to subdue a new primal. Since Omega's classic enemy is Shinryu, and all future FF games pay homage to the past ones, naming the new primal Shinryu was expected. Though Midgardsormr's relationship to Omega is suspect

My main reasoning on this point is that the FFXIV writers like to tie myths and legends to real characters and events in Hydaelyn's history. For every primal based on a character myth we have eventually received an origin for the myth itself or evidence that such an origin does indeed exist. We know the Domans have a myth of Shinryu, even if the primal summoned wasn't (as far we know) actually based on this myth, so it stands to reason that the writing team likely have an origin for that myth planned.

If Midgardsormr were to turn out to be the 'real' Shinryu and is helping us fight Omega then is it not still in keeping with the tradition of the pair as rivals?