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    I vote never, one potion fulfills the purpose of the potion in its entirety.

    One potion allows the overcoming of a content wall, more than that promotes a culture of paying for everything instead of playing.

    To the OP: if you are wanting the job potion, then levelling the job could be accomplished for free very easily before 4.1, if you are wanting the story one for an alt then I would say that this is not an alt friendly game and everything can be done on one account. The limit also controls things like using ALTs to circumvent specialist crafting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I vote never, one potion fulfills the purpose of the potion in its entirety.

    One potion allows the overcoming of a content wall, more than that promotes a culture of paying for everything instead of playing.
    I would say in that case if you have a character past (as in, even if deleted) or present that has beaten the relevent stuff for it, so Before The Fall for the ARR Story potion, and The Far Edge of Fate for HW Story potion, and ANY level 60+ for the job potions, then you shouldn't be able to buy that specific potion period. As I meet all 3 criteria, I therefore would never be allowed to buy a potion on this account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I would say in that case if you have a character past (as in, even if deleted) or present that has beaten the relevent stuff for it, so Before The Fall for the ARR Story potion, and The Far Edge of Fate for HW Story potion, and ANY level 60+ for the job potions, then you shouldn't be able to buy that specific potion period. As I meet all 3 criteria, I therefore would never be allowed to buy a potion on this account.
    Having a past character not so much but if you have a current endgame character I do agree that you shouldn't be able to buy the potion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I vote never, one potion fulfills the purpose of the potion in its entirety.

    One potion allows the overcoming of a content wall, more than that promotes a culture of paying for everything instead of playing.

    To the OP: if you are wanting the job potion, then levelling the job could be accomplished for free very easily before 4.1, if you are wanting the story one for an alt then I would say that this is not an alt friendly game and everything can be done on one account. The limit also controls things like using ALTs to circumvent specialist crafting
    I mean, unless you are totally new, bought a potion for a class you thought you would like and then BAM you don't like it? But that's not why I want another one.

    /shrug I honestly just want more rooms in my fc house. If I could, I'd pay for all of my alts to be lvl 60. I've got everything to 60 but mch/nin/sam/rdm on my main, I honestly just want more high lvl RP alts. More glamour options, nobody can screech about me having multiple fc rooms can they? I mean it's not the same as multiple houses. If I wanna give my money to SE for the sake of convenience then ...what's the problem here?

    4.1 though! Same as housing huh? I can wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    I mean, unless you are totally new, bought a potion for a class you thought you would like and then BAM you don't like it?
    Test out all the classes in PotD then level the one you like using extremely boosted XP from content?

    As for your very specific reasoning, again, that is trying to circumvent something that isn't intended (whether it affects others play experience or not), and I don't think SE should take that into account when deciding whether to allow you to purchase a skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I vote never, one potion fulfills the purpose of the potion in its entirety.

    One potion allows the overcoming of a content wall, more than that promotes a culture of paying for everything instead of playing.

    To the OP: if you are wanting the job potion, then levelling the job could be accomplished for free very easily before 4.1, if you are wanting the story one for an alt then I would say that this is not an alt friendly game and everything can be done on one account. The limit also controls things like using ALTs to circumvent specialist crafting
    Honestly, does it really matter? If someone wants to pay hundreds of dollars to jump multiple jobs, I couldn't care less. They don't win anything by it nor does it impact me in any way. The alternative is they'll just grind PotD, FATEs or PvP.

    As for Specialist crafting, that is no longer much of a circumvention. Soul of the Crafter tokens are sold for 480 Red Scrips. I can make five Chimerical Felt Alb of Healing right now, which are not even Stormblood items, and have enough to switch Specialists. The only benefit to alts beyond roleplaying is Savage loot drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    As for Specialist crafting, that is no longer much of a circumvention. Soul of the Crafter tokens are sold for 480 Red Scrips. I can make five Chimerical Felt Alb of Healing right now, which are not even Stormblood items, and have enough to switch Specialists. The only benefit to alts beyond roleplaying is Savage loot drops.
    There is however this one caveat:
    Quote Originally Posted by 4.0 Patch notes
    Players can change specialties up to three times a week.

    This resets every Tuesday at 1:00 a.m. (PDT).
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    Alts can still serve a purpose for bypassing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    There is however this one caveat:

    Source

    Alts can still serve a purpose for bypassing that.
    Ahh, I missed this. Thanks for the info! Suppose my alts still have a purpose yet

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRagnarok View Post
    Unlimited use of Jump Potions would just defy the means behind it. People who are too lazy to lvl jobs will buy those for the sake of "Completion"
    Not necessarily. To offer an example, I rotate three melees for my current static and pugged on Warrior throughout Creator. If I wanted to run two statics or have a second character so I wouldn't screw my static out of loot drops when I PF, the last thing I feel like doing is leveling up four jobs all over again. Granted, I almost certainly would because I'd rather keep the $100. But I can't quite begrudge someone else who was willing to spend money to avoid leveling their alts.
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