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Thread: HP inflation?

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    .......increasing enmity every patch is more work than just scaling enmity/attack power with a stat that increases with an i level jump. I give up
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    no more hour+ dps queues? that sounds awful.
    and then you will go back to the same issue with reverse which is over population of tank and short of dps because dps is not doing enough dps to justify to be squishy getting 1~2 hit and death, because why bring a job that dies in 2 hit when you can have a job that survive almost any mechanic with poor performance and still make the cut the entire fight will end up been a joke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    if they give tank too much damage what make you think player will not go 6 tank 2 healers? because warrior nearly took over dps back in 3.0
    I hate this argument. If the dps was even half way competent there was no way a DPS war was out parsing them plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevoh View Post
    I hate this argument. If the dps was even half way competent there was no way a DPS war was out parsing them plain and simple.
    if warrior was what it was on 3.x and they are wearing i320 str accessory you will see a 3.8k warrior
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    Yet the add tenacity an the Stat is broken, nobody has say anything about that, the Stat has no weight at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    if warrior was what it was on 3.x and they are wearing i320 str accessory you will see a 3.8k warrior
    War only came close to brd/mch without drg in 3.0-3.1, and those jobs brought more raid dps utilities than war, they had hypercharge, battle voice foe requiem, mp/tp refresh which were crucial in some fights during downtimes.

    Edit: Also in case you didn't know, war's dps wasn't even that much higher than drk in single target. Take the fastest a9s-a12s clears, in most cases they're really close together. In fact, in a9s drk should do more than war thanks to salted earth and dark passenger's aoe on the adds. Paladin was the only one left behind by a relatively wider margin.
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    Last edited by aleph_null; 07-04-2017 at 09:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    if they give tank too much damage what make you think player will not go 6 tank 2 healers? because warrior nearly took over dps back in 3.0
    Well then you're full of crap. Because if a DPS was doing so little damage that a WAR could almost overtake them then they were seriously doing a shitty job. Any DPS actually doing their job right could more than vastly exceed whatever a WAR could put out.
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    Adjust tenacity to actually be useful, problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    Idfk im not a mind reader, just my interpretation. Christ sakes
    For your own sanity I urge you to not look deeper into his words, they are a trap luring you to the dept of chaos where unspeakable creatures lurk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    I think it means in order for them to increase our damage if it's scaled to vit, is to inflate our HP and possibly give lead to them giving us way more than they intended.
    No, it means that they would be forced to inflate enemy Hp values as tanks would provide more dps.
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