SMN - Most Glaring Issues

[Sunako]

Small quality of life change for ppl that mess up stacks.. If savage not have multiple targets where you can abuse multidotting or some kind of aoe. I can already say summoner is gonna be bottom of dps with literally no utility. It is viable, but other classes just perform better..

[Ariomi]

The only thing I would tweak from SMN is Devotion. Allowing me to chose who gets it rather than a free for all.

Whoopeeee..................and we got a big of nothing once again......

You confuse me lol. You say in one post you would hardly change anything, then the next complain that Summoner got nothing.

[Neela]

Everybody wants to be a Summoner but nobody wants to be a Summoner......

I always was and always will be smn in this game :3

The aether-adjustment more seems like a hotfix until they figured out how to change/revamp the cls overall system to me... after all it's better than just buff ruin potecy in the end. Looking forward to try a "hyper charge" trance rota with this change... ^^

[Mature]

Small quality of life change for ppl that mess up stacks.. If savage not have multiple targets where you can abuse multidotting or some kind of aoe. I can already say summoner is gonna be bottom of dps with literally no utility. It is viable, but other classes just perform better..

This should of been done from day one. I guess they had to add "something" to SMN too or I could see many going beserk about the fact SMNs got nothing (in theory there was nothing)

[Furrythefireman]

You gotta love the it's nothing wrong with summoner people.
1. Bane is useless unless it's a big mob.
2. Pet can't stay alive during solo gameplay or maq, why ummm Idk.... Oh yea no way to heal them.( some people act like they forgot we solo to)
3. We're punished way to hard for dying.
4. When you summon bahamut he takes aggro with him so titan is useless at that point and your running around in a circle until he gets it back or the target dies from your dots.
5. Titan is very weak to actually tank without sustain. And before anyone say something I challenge any tank to try tank with no armor, weapon, or any form healing and see how long you last(rip if you're stupid enough to try it).

But sheep when follow anything SE does because that's what sheep do, If SE say nothing wrong with summoner than the sheepple won't see nothing wrong with summoner.

[Angry_Evil]

You gotta love the it's nothing wrong with summoner people.

This barely even starts to cover what is wrong with smn. I feel like you can write a dissertation about what is wrong with smn and how it's a glaring example of poor game design lol.
But I also feel that complaining about solo content bane and titan kinda muffles the message. Yes playing solo as SMN sucks, but you won't be excluded from exprimals\savage parties cause of titan\sustain or bane...

[Furrythefireman]

Well I was only giving a few examples for the it's nothing wrong with summoner people, because we both know SE tried to fix something that wasn't broken and destroyed it.

[Koyuki38]

SMN still have a way to get Improbement. Something about stack management on dying, pet responsivity or sustain, etc.

But what if every QoL problem is solved while the DPS remains unchanged. Would we still complain ?

[Neela]

This should of been done from day one. I guess they had to add "something" to SMN too or I could see many going beserk about the fact SMNs got nothing (in theory there was nothing)

I wouldn't say its "nothing" - at least now is guaranteed that you will get your burst spike dmg in every minute with dw ((150x5)+400)+10%(+10% if con used)=1265 pot (1530 if con used) and every 2nd minute with bt (at least 10x160+2x300(2xfester)+200(1xpainflare)+680=3080 pot (3388 pot if con used) - now this is calculated with real potency so even if you reduce it to 80% cause of pet-potency giving shockwave around 120 and ahk morn 540 pot its still 2540 pot in total while Bahamut is out. (Eirene f.e is able to throw out up to 12 shockwaves while Bahamut is out - so that would be even 330/240 pot more) – So this "meaningless" change will guarantee you at least 3800-4000 pot every 2 minutes... now+ the filler dps skills in between it might getting better without any downtime in your rota.

it won't be the big cls breakthrough but its a step in the right direction considering the effort the devs have to taken in the current situation... everything else aside this and pot buff - need way more resources and its doubtful if SE ever totally revamps an old cls.

After all im looking forward to our first Omega run on smn 2nite :3

[Angry_Evil]

But what if every QoL problem is solved while the DPS remains unchanged. Would we still complain ?

We should always complain. SMN is so poorly designed that it will NEVER be fully fixed.
But I would argue that some QoL changes should boost our dps - like returning to old aetherflow ways, so we would not skip DWT etc.
But we will probably get nothing except small potency boost in 4.2