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  1. #1
    Player
    Alisi's Avatar
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    Tempest Deep
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Evil View Post
    Summoner is an afterthought for a while now(or always was? hm)
    I disagree. There has to be a great level of insane planning that went into this job to make it so terrible. I don't think anyone could just fall over and make so many painful things to this job.

    Designer 1: Next up, SMN! Any ideas?
    Designer 2: Oh, I know! Let's give them an incredibly clunky aether gauge of horror. If they mess up on one stack, they'll be punished with a minute CD.
    Designer 3: We can also make all the animations long so that they don't get the full value of those seconds. Imagine the tears of the SMNs when they try to cast Ank/DF when they still have time left and FAIL! Bwahahah!
    Designer 2: That's WONDERFUL! Let's also leave the Egi out on the field until Bahamut's animation is over so there's a chance it'll die and waste a two minute set up!
    Designer 1: And we'll have to give them very hard hitting abilities and ZERO ways to negate that damage. Healers love that shit. Still... We need more...
    Designer 2: We can make Baha fill the entire screen! Fun for all!
    Designer 1: PERFECT!
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I really wonder how they will change smn in reference to "harder jobs should be rewarded more"... they tried this with the sss parser hp with smn on 3rd place after smn/blm but... sadly its just dps in theory until now - let's see if they change anything at all, without taking smn into concern in the last live letter... : /
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    Trance Paradinefellow
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    I really wonder how they will change smn in reference to "harder jobs should be rewarded more"... they tried this with the sss parser hp with smn on 3rd place after smn/blm but... sadly its just dps in theory until now - let's see if they change anything at all, without taking smn into concern in the last live letter... : /
    Didn't they say they were trying to make the jobs less complex overall? All they did was eff it up even more with SMN.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    The only thing I would tweak from SMN is Devotion. Allowing me to chose who gets it rather than a free for all.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Everybody wants to be a Summoner but nobody wants to be a Summoner......
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Everybody wants to be a Summoner but nobody wants to be a Summoner......
    I always was and always will be smn in this game :3

    The aether-adjustment more seems like a hotfix until they figured out how to change/revamp the cls overall system to me... after all it's better than just buff ruin potecy in the end. Looking forward to try a "hyper charge" trance rota with this change... ^^
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    Sophia Aintree
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    My isue with SMN is literally everything. The patch notes weren't a good sign, but I told myself it'll be not so bad and it just seems bad on paper; oh how naive.

    Without going to town in this comment, I will be brief (not very constructive I know) and just say - revert it to HW SMN. I don't care why the changes were made, I don't care for defensive reasoning or even softening of the blow; the class feels gimped to me now. Everything is completely unnecessary that was changed.

    The top offenders are: The overly long cooldown on Aetherflow. The trash that has become Bane. Paper skinned pet that vanishes for no reason and dies easily with no heal skill available. The overly long cooldown on Shadow Flare. The gigantic Bahamut.

    At the very least the timer on Aetherflow should be reverted, as well as returning Shadow Flare to how it was; I can live with the other mutilated limbs if they fix that at least.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Dreadwyrm Trance

    Aetherflow actions are no longer required to inflict an effect on a target to gain Aethertrail Attunement.
    Whoopeeee..................and we got a big of nothing once again......
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    Ariyala Amaterasu
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    The only thing I would tweak from SMN is Devotion. Allowing me to chose who gets it rather than a free for all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Whoopeeee..................and we got a big of nothing once again......
    You confuse me lol. You say in one post you would hardly change anything, then the next complain that Summoner got nothing.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Small quality of life change for ppl that mess up stacks.. If savage not have multiple targets where you can abuse multidotting or some kind of aoe. I can already say summoner is gonna be bottom of dps with literally no utility. It is viable, but other classes just perform better..
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