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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilenya View Post
    Pretty much this. Plus you have to consider the lower cost of and instant cast time of Aspected Benefic. Just to dispel some confusion, the 140 potency on Aspected Benefic is the regen portion of the spell under Diurnal Sect. The base healing on this spell is 200 for Diurnal Sect and 230 for Nocturnal Sect. Either way Astrologian's have strong, better, cheaper shields than Scholars have.
    Ughhh

    Aspect benefic is 140 base... not 200 ... its 140 in noct sect lol

    go back and redo ur math...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Ughhh

    Aspect benefic is 140 base... not 200 ... its 140 in noct sect lol

    go back and redo ur math...
    Have you actually looked at the tooltip of the spell? What you are saying would make this spell worse than Aspected Helios, an AoE heal. I don't need to recheck my math because I know how to read a tooltip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Mitigation preventation
    1)Sacred soil+ succor
    2) adol+ deployment tactics
    3) Succor + emergancy tactics
    4) succor + idomitability

    Split healing

    1)embrace + physic
    2)excogitation + fey union


    this is all without whispering dawn
    .. fey illumination,

    Guess u never really paid attention to sch kit huh :P
    Sacred Soil is the weakest ability you have to spend aetherflow on. It's a waste.
    Succor is incredibly expensive and only provides a 150 potency shield. That's one regen tick.
    Adlo+Deployment tactics is really good.
    Succor + Emergency Tactics is equal to a Medica. Except it costs more MP and relies on a cooldown, only 30 seconds, but still a cooldown.

    Embrace is basically a HoT so I don't understand why this is supposed to be some unique Scholar healing utility. Heck, Physick is weaker than Cure I or Benefic I.

    Excog is a mere 50 potency more than Lustrate, has a cooldown, and only triggers its healing on a condition. Fey Union is weak.

    Overall Scholar is pretty undertuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Ughhh

    Aspect benefic is 140 base... not 200 ... its 140 in noct sect lol

    go back and redo ur math...
    ugh i hate using mobile on this .... but ignore that noct sect is 154 potency with noct 10% buff

    people neglect that sch can boost there adoloquim with largress... fey illumination.... which is HUGE... se forgot to remove healing buff from fey ilpumination so sch have 40% heal buff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    Sacred Soil is the weakest ability you have to spend aetherflow on. It's a waste.
    Succor is incredibly expensive and only provides a 150 potency shield. That's one regen tick.
    Adlo+Deployment tactics is really good.
    Succor + Emergency Tactics is equal to a Medica. Except it costs more MP and relies on a cooldown, only 30 seconds, but still a cooldown.

    Embrace is basically a HoT so I don't understand why this is supposed to be some unique Scholar healing utility. Heck, Physick is weaker than Cure I or Benefic I.

    Excog is a mere 50 potency more than Lustrate, has a cooldown, and only triggers its healing on a condition. Fey Union is weak.

    Overall Scholar is pretty undertuned.
    all i read from that is ur trying to play a whm because i listed ways u can prevent mechanics as a scholar since ur role is to reduce damage taken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    all i read from that is ur trying to play a whm because i listed ways u can prevent mechanics as a scholar since ur role is to reduce damage taken
    You listed a bunch of mostly worthless or undertuned abilities. Adlo + Deployment Tactics is really good... and that's it.
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    as a scholar u really really need to get this solo healing idea out of ur minds to perform well as a scholar

    the sooner you all realise your there to prevent raid dmg the sooner u all will realise sch is very strong at its role and that their kit is insanely strong compare to the other healers

    but if u want to keep playing like a whm...and cry upon the forums your free to do so

    scholar no longer plays like it did in heavenward... my partner have realise it and he loves scholar more then ever

    you need to disband the whole whm/ast is main heal... sch is off heal idea because stormblood have killed off that idea

    healers are now made to deal with mechanics base upon their role

    the scholar is the king and reducing damage taken and mitigate the need for aoe healing so their partner only need to spend less gcd healing

    that is what the scholar kit is for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    as a scholar u really really need to get this solo healing idea out of ur minds to perform well as a scholar

    the sooner you all realise your there to prevent raid dmg the sooner u all will realise sch is very strong at its role and that their kit is insanely strong compare to the other healers

    but if u want to keep playing like a whm...and cry upon the forums your free to do so

    scholar no longer plays like it did in heavenward... my partner have realise it and he loves scholar more then ever

    you need to disband the whole whm/ast is main heal... sch is off heal idea because stormblood have killed off that idea

    healers are now made to deal with mechanics base upon their role

    the scholar is the king and reducing damage taken and mitigate the need for aoe healing so their partner only need to spend less gcd healing

    that is what the scholar kit is for
    How many times do we need to tell you that AST is better at shielding than SCH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    How many times do we need to tell you that AST is better at shielding than SCH?
    Considering the fun I've seen with the calculations going back and forth, I suspect an infinite amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    How many times do we need to tell you that AST is better at shielding than SCH?
    I would imagine many more times. Considering they are a level 70 Astro and lack any grasp of what their spells and abilities do.
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