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  1. #1
    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I didn't read the posts except for the first one, but.... SERIOUSLY, nothing for SCH. FRICK!!!!

    I'll read and update my post later, T.T

    So I read the patch notes, nothing else out of the ordinary, though i wonder why they still use the crank, shaft, spring, method for tokens; though i guess Omega is still a machine so it works.

    Oh and coining it now O1, O2, O3, O4, lol

    But seriously... NO SCHOLAR CHANGES!!!!! We Suck, FIX US, T.T
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    Last edited by Eloah; 07-04-2017 at 03:38 PM.

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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Far be it from me to turn down enmity buffs!
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    An issue wherein the bard action Battle Voice had no effect when used immediately after Mage’s Ballad, Army’s Paeon, or the Wanderer’s Minuet.
    * In addition to addressing this issue, party members are no longer required to be under the effects of a song to receive the effects of Battle Voice.
    I'm happy with Bard buffs. What about Machinist?
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Character
    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    My first to 70 was sch and that really needs a buff and I guess they wanted to watch it a bit more and not wing it. As for str tanks I get why they do it but as a sch, I am not amused though it is less of an issue on my astro. As for playing on my level 70 drk, I do decent at holding hate, though a though a few dps jobs can rip it off me when played well. More Enmity generation is nice. As for content I spend more time holding enmity than trying to knock out the extra dps. It leaves the healers happy, I am not chasing lose mobs and the dps can get them down nicely. While never a fan of locking gear as it can reduce creativity, I have never been a fan of str tanks and hope the 270 str items are locked soon. That way they can get back to working on changes to tanks with meta from tanks actually using all tank gear.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    That way they can get back to working on changes to tanks with meta from tanks actually using all tank gear.
    yeah but 2 more tiers of gear.accessories are coming one this week and another in 2 weeks. They need to really go back to vit/str or make vit the primary(not 1:1 ratio), while making the death penalty debuff flat potencies in damage dealt. Its like the difference between turning it from 3.0 berserk to FoF. One aided and scaled with the AP bonus for healing abilities, the other only enhanced damage dealt and didnt scale for healing abilities based on AP,

    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    That famitsu article, at least, confirms that Shirogane will be released no earlier than 4.1, and will likely be released during the 4.1 series, rather than immediately at 4.1. Which I think is a great thing. We also know that there will be a live letter coming up on July 15th, which will, hopefully, give us some answers on Shirogane.
    This is good to know Thanks for the information I was asked this by a FC mate earlier today and had no answer now I know

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I didn't read the posts except for the first one, but.... SERIOUSLY, nothing for SCH. FRICK!!!!

    I'll read and update my post later, T.T

    So I read the patch notes, nothing else out of the ordinary, though i wonder why they still use the crank, shaft, spring, method for tokens; though i guess Omega is still a machine so it works.

    Oh and coining it now O1, O2, O3, O4, lol

    But seriously... NO SCHOLAR CHANGES!!!!! We Suck, FIX US, T.T

    There,there I am sort of hoping that 4,1 or 4.2 will bring the many non-changes from 3,0 for both roles to where they "get it"
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 07-04-2017 at 03:58 PM.

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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    So I guess SCH is working as intended... AST it is.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  7. #7
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Character
    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm curious as to how much of an upgrade the scrip gear is going to be over fully melded HQ 70 gear.

    I'm kind of glad I didn't splurge on the latter in any case.
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    LordLucavi's Avatar
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    Character
    Faran Lucavi
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    It is both more and less than I anticipated. I expected them to penalize tanks who insist on being dps and not using Shield Oath/Grit/Defiance. I do not have an issue keeping hate in tank stance, and before anyone tries to salt up about "omg tank dps wah wah windowlick", if I wanted to play dps, I have 70 rdm and 70 drg for that. Use your enmity generators more.

    I did not expect them to increase enmity further on tank hate generators. I like this.

    Cannot wait to get my FF3/6 magitek sprite mount.
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  9. #9
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    SE probably didn't have time to do in-depth balance changes for this patch. Increasing enmity gained from moves is an easy numbers fix on their end. So is changing a damage type and flagging AoE/personal and setting the range. Deeper changes will come with 4.05, so don't grab the pitch forks yet. Wait until those patch notes hit and your favourite job didn't get the same love as others did. :P
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    SE probably didn't have time to do in-depth balance changes for this patch. Increasing enmity gained from moves is an easy numbers fix on their end. So is changing a damage type and flagging AoE/personal and setting the range. Deeper changes will come with 4.05, so don't grab the pitch forks yet. Wait until those patch notes hit and your favourite job didn't get the same love as others did. :P
    It was more likely a bug. They made the changes to balance the SB content, but then found tanks couldn't keep hate AT ALL in the 1-49 and 50 dungeons. Quite Literately, nothing you can do in Satasha, Copperbell or Tam-Tara will keep hate as a tank. The second the healer or DPS sneeze, you lose it. Until you get a tank stance (Shield Oath(gold icon)/Defiance(red icon)/Grid(blue icon)) at like level 30 (by actually doing the Job quest and not just spamming PotD till you're blue in the face,) you can't recover mobs that have decided to eat the party's face.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 07-04-2017 at 04:31 PM.

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