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    Ogulbuk's Avatar
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I hope they do realize those accessories are not taken just because of enmity... >_>
    For better or worse: quite a few people argued it was imposible now to hold aggro from some jobs "because tank damage is not high enough to keep up with enmity."

    I saw that argument be pulled up more than a few times in the STR accessory threads. Maybe these people thought it would be a good argument to get us more damage, but that backfired.
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I'm holding aggro a lot better since the patch. Happy with that change at the very least.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Did you guys notice they stealth nerfed Souleater on DRK?

    Before the patch, it was healing for 100% of damage dealt. Now it's healing for less. Mind you it wasn't THAT much less, but still off.
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Did you guys notice they stealth nerfed Souleater on DRK?

    Before the patch, it was healing for 100% of damage dealt. Now it's healing for less. Mind you it wasn't THAT much less, but still off.
    You mean before the big patch? Yeah that was noted IRT Souleater and Inner Beast. I don't think anybody is really sure why.
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Because of how the damage is scaling fast now, they don't want us healing for 24% of our hp soon.

    At L60 it is still 100%. At level 70 it is 88%. That was from 4.0, not 4.01.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    You mean before the big patch? Yeah that was noted IRT Souleater and Inner Beast. I don't think anybody is really sure why.
    No, I mean between 4.0 and 4.01.

    For the last 2 weeks, Souleater has been returning 100% damage dealt as HP, regardless of the tooltip change ("a portion").

    But now after 4.01, it's not returning 100%. More like 80-90%.
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    No, I mean between 4.0 and 4.01.

    For the last 2 weeks, Souleater has been returning 100% damage dealt as HP, regardless of the tooltip change ("a portion").

    But now after 4.01, it's not returning 100%. More like 80-90%.
    That's really interesting. What you're talking about usually gradually would happen as you got closer to level 70. Now you're saying it's happening at level 60?
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yeah, like WAR no longer doing 80% of a DPS jobs damage. How dare they!
    I mean warrior still does 80% of MOST dps players damage because most dps suck at those class and I can still easily out dps a poorly played dps.
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oh I dont have this problem. I'm just saying, its always WAR's complaining they dont do enough DPS anymore, its one of my FC members' favorite complaint.
    Warriors aren't my complaint g about lower dps in relation to other dps we are complaining about having low dps as compared to other tanks. We have no raid utility the other tanks do we need to do quite a bit more damage to make up for that just like se made tge arguement to justify sam dps. War is in the same place its the sam of tanks without doing more damage when played optimally.
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Why though? Mechanically it doesn't really make a difference if you optimize dps or dtps (if the systems are similar in complexity). Personally I favor the dps optimization of this game over the damage smoothing and hps checks of others. The risk/reward balancing and per fight optimization of cooldowns and dps uptime is just more interesting for me.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 07-05-2017 at 07:39 AM.

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