Thread: Concerning 1.20 and Job/Class Adjustment

Originally Posted by Odysseuss

I agree 100 percent with you. I dont like how they nerfed the DD classes and made THM so damn strong.

THM's high damage output is to compensate for the fact that they use MP to create that damage and therefore can't sustain high dd output for long periods of time like a TP based DOW class can. THM's do not have infinite mp and therefore, there is a 'cap' to how much damage they can do overall. So while yes, an individual nuke might hit for 2-3 times as much as your WS, you can build tp at a much faster rate. So in the end, the damage you do overtime should average close to the output of a THM...and for longer battles, you might even outdamage THM overall.

PS: Damage magic casting mages should always have the highest spike damaging abilities in any game. However, they trade off, HP's and survivability and having their damage limited by their available MP pool.

Originally Posted by Mamba

Thank you... Was going to reply this myself, but you got there first. I think anyone critizising a nuking mage doing too much damage should play that job themselves, see how long they can nuke the big nukes until the run out of MP or die...

THM is irrelevant, because that's most certainly going to be patched. All mage classes are always buggy after a patch. So enjoy the un scaled damage for as long as its around, it's always fun to play with, but never lasts.

Originally Posted by Gehena

THM is irrelevant, because that's most certainly going to be patched. All mage classes are always buggy after a patch. So enjoy the un scaled damage for as long as its around, it's always fun to play with, but never lasts.

I sincerely doubt it's getting patched, as has been stated before, it loses MP really quickly for it to be able to deal overpowered damage. It's really flashy and an adequate nuker, but as is the case for every nuking class, it has limitations.

Originally Posted by Mamba

Ahem... I doubt this.
Look at BLM on 11.. It nukes are insane ... and then it runs out of MP. It hasn't been patched nor it should be. Same goes with THM.

I'm guessing you just now started playing 11? BLM BLU DNC so on are patched after every new big update.

Originally Posted by Mamba

Ahem... I doubt this.
Look at BLM on 11.. It nukes are insane ... and then it runs out of MP. It hasn't been patched nor it should be. Same goes with THM.

I dont get why ppl dont see this. BLM downfall is stupid waiting around getting mp while every other dd is going crazy. For a game that makes you choose w/e you want to be you cant expect balance this balance that bs. You can only makes certain mobs have higher resistance to certain jobs. Which would then force ppl to play different jobs. Everybody said Arc was broken then they hella gimped it then Lnc was broken now they fix it. Now they're saying Thm is broken and need to be fix? seriously? Every time you ppl cry for a fix you already know whats going to happens. See now Thm is actually working as intended and every bodies blasting it because they prefer a melee dd that can damage and tank at the same time and don't need to get mp back because they only really use mp for cure and raise. How is that balance again?

Originally Posted by evilmica

Thm is actually working as intended and every bodies blasting it because they prefer a melee dd that can damage and tank at the same time and don't need to get mp back because they only really use mp for cure and raise. How is that balance again?

Hehehe...didn't you know it's not about what damage everyone else in the party can do but rather, how can they make me look more awesome!. Many players focus only on their own individual DD output and forget that it's the party's DD output and Damage Mitagating Moves that make them successful.

Originally Posted by Answa

I sincerely doubt it's getting patched, as has been stated before, it loses MP really quickly for it to be able to deal overpowered damage. It's really flashy and an adequate nuker, but as is the case for every nuking class, it has limitations.

I'm sure they will still be one of the top DD but in terms of how damage is dealt now, that will be patched.

Originally Posted by Gehena

THM is irrelevant, because that's most certainly going to be patched. All mage classes are always buggy after a patch. So enjoy the un scaled damage for as long as its around, it's always fun to play with, but never lasts.

I doubt this. THM is working as intended. Cast a Big nuke combo or two, stand in back and rest MP. Rinse repeat.

More importantly, Classes post level 30 are designed for SOLO play. However, since none of us can play our jobs yet, we are all forced to play our Classes in parties doing post level 30 content. So there are going to be some issues with this...for all classes. When we have our Jobs, post level 30 elite content will make more sense.

Also, ALC,CUL and GDS all have yet to get recipe revamps. These classes all have the potential of affecting class/job performance since these are traditionally the classes that craft either consumable buffer items, or wearable buffer items. (HP regen, MP refresh, HP restore, MP restore, raise, and status effect erasers, etc).

So unless your Class is having major trouble soloing the current in game content that was designed to be soloed, the classes are working as intended....all the classes.